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Post by The Doctor on Jun 18, 2015 11:20:58 GMT -6
Just In: Sam Jones III and Kristin Kreuk's Pete Ross and Lana Lang Paired Up in Fiftieth Episode Event! The fiftieth episode of "Watchtower" has officially began production, and returning to set in a whole different dynamic are two Smallville veterans, Kristin Kreuk (Lana Lang) and Sam Jones III (Pete Ross). What dynamic could that be, you ask? Well, let's just say that love is in the air for the first love of one Clark Kent, and the man who spent three seasons hung-up-on-Chloe in the unrequited hopeless romantic kind of way. Yes, Pete Ross and Lana Lang are officially an item. The catch, however, is this romantic pairing only exists in a world where Chloe Sullivan never made it to Gotham City after the conclusion to the hit CW/WB series "Smallville."
"This episode is all about honouring the past to figure out how far these characters have come in the present," executive producer and series creator, Jack Malone told VSGuide of the upcoming fiftieth episode event, "Part of that means exploring the life Chloe had before she made it to Gotham." Malone admitted difficulty in finding a way to incorporate these two important characters into the story, calling for a romantic coupling between the two. However, the idea of Lana and Pete following their iconic romance from the comic books has lingered long before now. The question becomes: are these two destined to follow the same path, and what makes Chloe's absence from Gotham wedge these two together in this alternate reality? "Cracking into this world, we've found a lot of story that excites us and a lot of story that we could do a whole other show with," Malone spoke of the upcoming storyline, "However, we don't have the time to do that, unfortunately, so there will be some questions, and some answers, and hopefully what we give is accepted and understood. Essentially, the idea is that everyone in Metropolis, and everyone from Chloe's past are leading happy, successful lives, including Chloe, but everyone she grew to love and know from Gotham are facing hell on Earth." So while we may not know what put these two characters into each other's orbits, fans can expect a happier life for these characters who had struggled through loss, heartbreak and suffering over the course of Smallville's run. "When we revisit Lana later in the season, we'll learn that this happy life isn't what she's leading in the real world. But that's a story for later."
It is still unknown whether or not we will be seeing Lana in the present day storyline for the fiftieth episode, but Kristin Kreuk is signed on for more episodes this season, following the cancellation of the sister series, "Trinity." In the meantime, what do you guys expect from a Lana and Pete hookup? Do you think it's as odd as we do or perhaps opposites really do attract? Sound off below!
I'm so glad this storyline is playing out. . Can we possibly get Pete to guest star on WT?
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Post by Jack Malone on Jun 18, 2015 17:23:12 GMT -6
I'm so glad this storyline is playing out. . Can we possibly get Pete to guest star on WT? Thanks, man. I'm excited to kind of play towards the iconic romance from the comics for the small part Lana and Pete play in the fiftieth episode. I haven't written their scenes yet, or really fleshed them out, so it's going to be nice to see how they bounce off one another. I have to admit, it's difficult to picture these two together outside of an alternate reality, but I couldn't pass up the opportunity to explore them because of the comic book history. The fiftieth felt like a good time to do it As for Pete, it would be nice to see him resurface and see what he's up to. Part of me hopes that Chris will return to "Trinity" one day, so I'll have to talk to him about it. But yeah, I have no plans at the moment. Perhaps when it comes time to fleshing out next season, I will find a place for him, if not -- as much as I keep saying this -- the final season will be the opportunity to bring back so many characters from the history of "Watchtower", "Trinity" and "Smallville" due to the nature of the storyline
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Post by Alex Matthews on Jun 18, 2015 18:13:08 GMT -6
While I'm not enamoured with the pairing, I can see the logic of doing it, especially with the 'alternate universe' setting. Truth be told, I've never been a huge Pete fan, and I said as much in various "Trinity" discussion/spoiler threads. I just always felt that the character didn't really bring anything to the show, and was thankful when he was written out, since it allowe Chloe to become the sole best friend. They tried to flesh him out, with the whole Luthor grudge, then him being the first friend to know Clark's secret, but it just never really clicked with me - he always came across too whiney, too cowardly and unadventurous. That said, in the original incarnation of "Trinity", I liked what Chris was trying to do with me, bring him more into the action, having him as part of Lana's crew, and the eventual friendship he formed with Hank Heywood. So I'm interested to see what you bring to him in your own, Jack, be it the alternate, or the prime version
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Post by Jack Malone on Jun 18, 2015 19:16:14 GMT -6
While I'm not enamoured with the pairing, I can see the logic of doing it, especially with the 'alternate universe' setting. Truth be told, I've never been a huge Pete fan, and I said as much in various "Trinity" discussion/spoiler threads. I just always felt that the character didn't really bring anything to the show, and was thankful when he was written out, since it allowe Chloe to become the sole best friend. They tried to flesh him out, with the whole Luthor grudge, then him being the first friend to know Clark's secret, but it just never really clicked with me - he always came across too whiney, too cowardly and unadventurous. That said, in the original incarnation of "Trinity", I liked what Chris was trying to do with me, bring him more into the action, having him as part of Lana's crew, and the eventual friendship he formed with Hank Heywood. So I'm interested to see what you bring to him in your own, Jack, be it the alternate, or the prime version Chris and I always joked about Lana and Pete. I mean, we both pretty much shipped Lana/Quentin (whilst being tortured because we both loved Quentin/Valentina) but because of the comics we'd always make "endgame" jokes about the two. After writing fifty episodes, I want to kind of honor our back and forth by pairing them up in this alternate world. Also, it would be hard to bring Pete back into the story without being romantically tied to Lana, so it allows us to see an old face without some forced explanation. On Smallville, I really didn't like Pete. I always thought that he was the worst friend anyone could kind of have because Clark finally lets him in on this secret, something that's been eating him up for years, and Pete kind of turns his back on him, makes "alien" jokes and threatens to expose everything because of hurt feelings. It annoyed me because the secret had nothing to do with Pete, and he made it all about himself which is the kind of behavior you don't want in a "best friend." However, as you said, I loved what Chris did with him on "Trinity" and I think its redeemed his image for me in wanting to include him in this episode. I always preferred his dynamic with Jake. It was probably my favourite dynamic of that first season. *praises chris* But yeah, I'm excited to explore this alt reality Pete, and have him be paired with Lana, as it was in the comics
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 18, 2015 21:22:36 GMT -6
Well hopefully Pete can return. Because lets be honest,i feel like Pete after smallville had a lot of potential. Chris wrote Pete amazingly and I honestly hope you incorporate him into the show when you can jack
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Post by Jack Malone on Jun 18, 2015 22:53:45 GMT -6
Well hopefully Pete can return. Because lets be honest,i feel like Pete after smallville had a lot of potential. Chris wrote Pete amazingly and I honestly hope you incorporate him into the show when you can jack If he's ever going to pop up, it'll be on Watchtower. I can definitely see him surfacing next season, to be honest. We shall see
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Post by Jack Malone on Jun 20, 2015 21:58:46 GMT -6
Just In: Rick Cosnett Joins Expanding DC Comics Universe; Meet Wonder Woman's Steve Trevor! The fiftieth episode of Watchtower is shaping up to be one of the biggest, with news of returning cast members stepping back on the set, and new DC Comics heroes making their debut. Now, we bring even more news with casting of Steve Trevor -- the primary love interest for Wonder Woman in comic book mythology. A few months back, it was revealed that DC Comics' Wonder Woman would be making her first appearance on the show in the upcoming fiftieth episode, and it wasn't until recently VSGuide learned that the producers were searching for the Clark Kent to his Lois Lane in Steve Trevor. Now, with casting finalised, we took to the producers to learn a little bit more about the Wonder Woman elements that seem to be seeping pretty heavily into the big fiftieth episode event of the series.
"In this version of our story, Steve is head of A.R.G.U.S (Advanced Research Group Uniting Super-Humans) and intervenes when Gotham becomes overridden with civilians with enhanced abilities, thanks to Emil's experiments," Malone told of the character's introductory storyline, "He is a strong force of good, and believes that whether you're human or super-human, you all deserve to be treated the same and so you'll see him trying to use his knowledge, and his resources to protect the city of Gotham." However, according to Malone, things don't go as planned, and Steve comes into contact with the one and only Diana Prince aka Wonder Woman. "Without giving too much away, Steve ends up on Paradise Island where he'll very much spark the origin story for Diana stepping into her role as Wonder Woman within this alternate reality, and summoning her help to save Gotham."
While some may be questioning why introducing these two characters in an alternate reality is happening, Malone hoped to squash doubts by reinforcing the set-up this episode does for the future of the show. "Bridget [Regan] and Rick [Cosnett] will be bringing these characters to life in a way that will get you excited for the next season of our show," Malone stated, confirming that both actors will be back for the expected fourth season of the show, "Steve and Diana will be key components of the next season, and in order to celebrate our fiftieth milestone, we wanted to honour the past, present and future of Watchtower."
One of our questions for the producers surrounded the introduction of A.R.G.U.S and whether or not they will become an important element of the show heading towards the back end of this season, and the beginning of the next. Malone told VSGuide that they're paving the way for Checkmate to resurface as a primary villain, tackling a storyline they otherwise couldn't when 'Trinity' was on the air. "We're still reeling from the cancellation of Trinity, but when one door closes, another one opens, and it's allowed us to go down a rather interesting path heading into next year," Malone said of the sister-series' cancellation, "A.R.G.U.S, and Steve Trevor will be major elements of our fourth season, yes."
So, what are your thoughts on the latest DC Comics arrival? Are you excited to see the debut of Wonder Woman, and elements of her mythology? Are you even more excited for the fourth season? Sound off below!
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Post by Jack Malone on Jun 21, 2015 3:00:16 GMT -6
The official description for "Countdown" is here: IT'S THE FIFTIETH EPISODE OF “WATCHTOWER.” WHAT IF CHLOE SULLIVAN NEVER CAME TO GOTHAM CITY – On the night of her birthday, Chloe (Allison Mack) makes a wish that takes her to a world where she never stepped foot in Gotham City. In this version of reality, the GCPD have been replaced with super-powered soldiers who have been ordered to eliminate all traces of life in Gotham. Uniting with A.R.G.U.S Agents Lana Lang (special guest star Kristin Kreuk), Pete Ross (special guest star Sam Jones III), and Steve Trevor (guest star Rick Cosnett) Chloe attempts to save a city she wanted to forget. Meanwhile, an imprisoned Bruce (Christian Bale) embarks on a vengeful vendetta against Amanda Waller (guest star Pam Grier), Gordon (Dylan Walsh) leads a resistance team against the super-soldiers, Emil (special guest star Alessandro Juliani) works to unleash his secret weapon, and a new hero is born. Back in the real world, Talia (Stana Katic) unveils a new threat for Team Watchtower. Kayla Ewell, Bryan Greenberg, and Yvonne Strahovski also star. Michael McKean does not appear in this episode.
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Post by Alex Matthews on Jun 21, 2015 6:25:00 GMT -6
Rick Cosnett as Steve Trevor?! YUMMY!! I will admit, I've not been a big fan of a lot of the ideas of the Nu52, but A.R.G.U.S. was one of the things I did likem - many of the government agencies always seems to be acting against superheroes, or getting in the way, or act like they're sick of just being there for the cleanup after heroes do the heavy lifting. A.R.G.U.S. is different for the fact they actually are there to work WITH the heroes, helping, supporting and clearing up after them. However, I will admit that since it's introduction in "Arrow", I've been worried you'd want to use them yourself at some point. It's not that I don't think you'll do them justice, or differentiate that from the Arrowverse version, it's just that I like it when you mine comic book history for more original ideas. That said, I am looking forward to seeing this alternate Gotham City, and how A.R.G.U.S fits into the overall storyline of both "Countdown" and the following season
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Post by Jack Malone on Jun 21, 2015 8:23:07 GMT -6
Rick Cosnett as Steve Trevor?! YUMMY!! I will admit, I've not been a big fan of a lot of the ideas of the Nu52, but A.R.G.U.S. was one of the things I did likem - many of the government agencies always seems to be acting against superheroes, or getting in the way, or act like they're sick of just being there for the cleanup after heroes do the heavy lifting. A.R.G.U.S. is different for the fact they actually are there to work WITH the heroes, helping, supporting and clearing up after them. However, I will admit that since it's introduction in "Arrow", I've been worried you'd want to use them yourself at some point. It's not that I don't think you'll do them justice, or differentiate that from the Arrowverse version, it's just that I like it when you mine comic book history for more original ideas. That said, I am looking forward to seeing this alternate Gotham City, and how A.R.G.U.S fits into the overall storyline of both "Countdown" and the following season It was quite a struggle to find someone for Steve Trevor. I'm happy with Rick Cosnett! "Arrow" has had zero influence on Watchtower. There have been multiple times I've done something that Arrow has done or was planning on doing, and they've been completely different takes, eg. The League of Shadows/Assassins, Lazarus Pit, Count Vertigo (which you'll see when Overload airs), Ra's Al Ghul and his family, etc. For inspiration, I usually look back to Smallville or into the comics. I don't see how announcing the introduction of an element from the comics is seen as the opposite of 'original.' That's why it always bugged me when I'd get comments about not having "original" characters when the journeys and week-to-week episodes don't come straight out of a comic book. What I'm doing with what's been announced hasn't been released yet, and so until then, questions of originality are things I can't really respond to but having seen what little of A.R.G.U.S we have on "Arrow", I can say it won't be anything like that because just like its protagonist being Batman disguised in Green Arrow's clothing, Arrow's version of A.R.G.U.S so far has just been Checkmate. I'm really excited about the storyline for the 50th. I just finished outlining the episode, and am onto writing the first act right now. It's quite dark and brutal and apocalyptic but with those hopeful flares that have remained on Smallville/Watchtower since day one. With the 100th episode being the series finale, I can't really do anything for it that honours the show so much as wraps it all up, so this has that 100th episode feel you'd see for long running TV Shows. I'm excited to get it done, dusted, and aired
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Post by Alex Matthews on Jun 21, 2015 8:47:12 GMT -6
Apologies if I mis-stated my thoughts - what I meant about being afraid of you using A.R.G.U.S., was that as a concept, they're still very new in the comics, having been introduced in the nu52, but because of their screen time in "Arrow", they've gotten a lot of exposure and attention. It was intended as a comment regarding A.R.G.U.S itself, and not your ideas. I'm not questioning your originality - I wouldn't still be eager to read episodes, or go back and re-read ones already released if I didn't enjoy the show. As a "WTR" fan of at least 3 or 4 years now, I can safely say that I much prefer your own interpretation of both "Arrow" and "Batman" mythos, compared to the current tv "Arrow" that exists.
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Post by Jack Malone on Jun 21, 2015 9:34:01 GMT -6
Apologies if I mis-stated my thoughts - what I meant about being afraid of you using A.R.G.U.S., was that as a concept, they're still very new in the comics, having been introduced in the nu52, but because of their screen time in "Arrow", they've gotten a lot of exposure and attention. It was intended as a comment regarding A.R.G.U.S itself, and not your ideas. I'm not questioning your originality - I wouldn't still be eager to read episodes, or go back and re-read ones already released if I didn't enjoy the show. As a "WTR" fan of at least 3 or 4 years now, I can safely say that I much prefer your own interpretation of both "Arrow" and "Batman" mythos, compared to the current tv "Arrow" that exists. You have nothing to apologise for, man. I know how supportive you've been of me and the show. Thanks for clearing stuff up. I definitely wasn't offended or anything, I just wanted to emphasise how I draw inspiration from comics and the show Watchtower spins off from, as opposed to other interpretations in the medium of film/television. "Arrow" bugs me a little when it comes to how they adapt certain things, because they don't so much take something and change it up, instead they take the name of something or someone and use it as a disguise for what they really want to do (ARGUS/Checkmate, Arrow/Batman). And wow, I take that as the highest of compliments. Thank you!
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Post by Alex Matthews on Jun 21, 2015 10:05:38 GMT -6
"Arrow" bugs me a little when it comes to how they adapt certain things, because they don't so much take something and change it up, instead they take the name of something or someone and use it as a disguise for what they really want to do (ARGUS/Checkmate, Arrow/Batman). I have waited SO LONG for someone to say that!
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Post by Brady Brown on Jun 21, 2015 14:46:25 GMT -6
I'm very excited to see Steve Trevor show up, because it just seems so natural for him to be in the mix with Wonder Woman being introduced. What I'm also intrigued about is the dynamic it's going to pull from the series, because the main couple we've been exposed to is Chloe and Oliver, and while we all know and love them together, seeing these two characters - a "power couple," if you will - is just going to create a nice contrast. And them, as well as foreshadowing for their roles in the next season, being introduced now is a very smart move, because getting as much exposure as you can to new characters, whom we'll both probably love, is a great idea. As for A.R.G.U.S., it's going to be interesting to see how it balances with Checkmate, and how it brings them back into the picture. I think seeing Steve and Amanda butting heads and having intense scenes is going to be something that I hope happens in the next season, if that's at all possible. I think power players who aren't superhuman can play such a huge role in a series like Watchtower, as it did Smallville, and it's probably the thing I'm looking forward to the most in the upcoming season 4. My only small concern is that the 50th episode could become crowded; however, this concern is so small, because I know you're probably going to pull it off tremendously, but I wanted to bring it up just in case you had something you wanted to mention. In regards to Lana and Pete - I definitely think it's going to take me reading their relationship to be entirely sold, if that makes sense. I mean, I understand that in the comics they have a relationships, probably a beautiful one, but when it comes to Smallville!Pete and Smallville!Lana, it's quite hard to picture. But despite that, I'm definitely intrigued to see how their romantic paths have crossed if Chloe had never made her way to Gotham. BRING ON THIS 50TH EPISODE.
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Post by Jack Malone on Jun 21, 2015 18:31:42 GMT -6
I'm very excited to see Steve Trevor show up, because it just seems so natural for him to be in the mix with Wonder Woman being introduced. What I'm also intrigued about is the dynamic it's going to pull from the series, because the main couple we've been exposed to is Chloe and Oliver, and while we all know and love them together, seeing these two characters - a "power couple," if you will - is just going to create a nice contrast. And them, as well as foreshadowing for their roles in the next season, being introduced now is a very smart move, because getting as much exposure as you can to new characters, whom we'll both probably love, is a great idea. Thanks, buddy. Yeah, I'm really excited about introducing Steve Trevor. He just completes the package for Wonder Woman. This episode will have a rather obvious nod towards their iconic, potential future romance. I can't say I've mapped out a love story for the two next season. They definitely stand on their own two feet without that romantic link, but it's definitely going to be in the back of my mind and more than likely develop towards that at some point. I'm just excited to be finally using these characters As for Chloe and Oliver, their reunion in the fiftieth is going to hurt me just writing it. I've missed them so much. A.R.G.U.S isn't going to have anything to do with Amanda Waller in Watchtower. It's a much more separated thing that provides a much stronger force of good for our heroes than any source of conflict. Checkmate will be prevalent in the fourth season, and there will be a power play between Waller and someone else that I haven't announced yet (who will serve as the big bad of the season). That season is going to be less super-human, and timey wimey and back to basics like it was in the first season But yeah, you'll get a power play, just not with Steve and Waller. It does sound really crowded. Having outlined it, I promise there's no clunky moments whatsoever. Lana and Pete very much carry over into the main story while Clark and Lois are only really there for the episode to kick off. Certain main characters we only really see around two or three times for their stories to play out. It's basically going to be this really fast paced, action packed hour of Watchtower that once the ball starts rolling, it doesn't stop until the closing minutes of the episode Pete has definitely grown up. The really fun part about writing him in this episode is that you'll have all his experiences from Smallville kind of shape him into a more understanding, more accepting man. I definitely want to bring the character back for Season Four, so seeing a reaction to him (not the relationship) is something I'm really interested about coming out of this episode. That said, when we're introducing Lana back into the central storyline (episode seventeen), I'm looking into giving a nod towards Quentin who I think was the fan favourite on "Trinity." *still crying about it being gone now* Thanks, man. I seriously can't wait for you to read it!
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Post by Alex Matthews on Jun 22, 2015 16:24:08 GMT -6
I'm currently watching an episode of "Castle" that guest-stars Dylan Walsh as an FBI Agent working with Castle and Beckett, and I saw a few scenes that made me go "Oh, those scenes would look good in a "WTR" trailer..."
It also got me thinking, will Talia and Gordon ever meet? I mean, she's met most of the other characters, either when she was inhabiting Chloe's body, or due to her machinations, but if I recall, she hasn't met Gordon yet...
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Post by Jack Malone on Jun 22, 2015 20:43:09 GMT -6
I'm currently watching an episode of "Castle" that guest-stars Dylan Walsh as an FBI Agent working with Castle and Beckett, and I saw a few scenes that made me go "Oh, those scenes would look good in a "WTR" trailer..." It also got me thinking, will Talia and Gordon ever meet? I mean, she's met most of the other characters, either when she was inhabiting Chloe's body, or due to her machinations, but if I recall, she hasn't met Gordon yet... That's so cool. That's like when I was watching "Castle" and Stana Katic shared a scene with Michael McKean, and I totally used that in a promo or the opening credits. It was something. I love when stuff like that happens! I'm failing to remember Talia and Gordon sharing a scene, so maybe they haven't yet. Looking at where the season is headed with Talia, in particular, I'm not sure if they will share a scene which actually bugs me now -- damn you Alex! The furtherst she got was at the funeral for Bruce in 314, but they didn't interact/speak. Talia is back in Gotham for 317 onwards, so maybe she will cross paths with him if the story calls for it somewhere between there and the finale. I have nothing in my notes that calls for them to meet, but whenever it comes to breaking a story for the episode, and outlining the entire thing, new things resurface all the time. For example, 317 is in the outlining stage now, and it was originally going to feature a story where Chloe spends a day trying to protect this guy who she grows to fall for and he re-opens her heart to let love in again. Instead, that entire male character has been replaced with Lana Lang, and it's gone from a bittersweet episode to an all out, action packed Hush/Checkmate story that sets us up for the final stretch of episodes
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Post by Alex Matthews on Jun 23, 2015 2:53:40 GMT -6
For example, 317 is in the outlining stage now, and it was originally going to feature a story where Chloe spends a day trying to protect this guy who she grows to fall for and he re-opens her heart to let love in again. Instead, that entire male character has been replaced with Lana Lang, and it's gone from a bittersweet episode to an all out, action packed Hush/Checkmate story that sets us up for the final stretch of episodes While this story outine sounds EPIC(!) I have to admit I was looking forward to the whole idea of Chloe getting a new love interest - I remember ready that in the spoilers AGES ago and being intrigued who it could be, be it an original character, or someone from the comics.
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