I know this is still undeveloped but so far there doesn't seem to be much plot. It doesn't seem have a lot of length. Instead of making this a series, think about a movie or a mini-series.
Another thing is it just feels like another generic teen drama. There's nothing that separates it from the leagues of other teen shows/movies. Think what this could do differently to them. Veronica Mars was a noir detective show set in a high school. Season 4 of the Wire explored how a group of high school kids lived in a city rife with crime and corruption. Vampire Diaries had a mythology that often made the writers forget about the high school aspect. And everyone knows about Buffy. Look for an unique angle.
My last point is bias and personal, but it's about the whole "always done what’s right and always followed his dream of being a lawyer, he is selfless, caring and an all-around good guy" aspect. In certain settings, war for example, that kind of character can be good, like Winters from Band of Brothers. But in straight drama's, I often find myself not caring and sometimes even forgetting they even exist. In recent years it's the selfish characters, the assholes that are the leads. Characters like Vic Mackey, Walter White and Nucky Thompson have become much more memorable leads than the typical good guy. People who rob, kill, have extra-marital affairs. People who by all rights should be hated have become the beloved leads in some of the most acclaimed TV shows ever made. Whether you choose to go down the edgier, anti-hero road though is your choice. That's just my personal opinion. Food for thought.
I don't know what the traditional Christmas dinner is in either USA or Australia but my family has a Christmas lunch annually that is delicious. Of course I eat so much I end up almost throwing up every year and this year was no different. The really crappy wine didn't help.
As for presents, I got the final season of Breaking Bad and the entire series of the Sopranos (with a cool hip flask too). Finally I will have seen all the big HBO shows. Also got some weird French cop show called Braquo that looks interesting. What did I buy my relatives? Got my mum Supernatural season 8 (She's a bigger fan than I ever was), my dad that Walking Dead game and my brother got some Miley Cyrus movie (He's got a huge crush on her).
So overall, a pretty decent but quiet Christmas. Now onto the new year where I will get my life in order. I hope at least. Maybe. You know what, it probably won't happen.
Can somebody explain why Bonnie is still around? It's well known I've never liked her, but I have understood the role she played. The anti-vampire character, the character that critised the actions of others, even if she got very irritating about it. But at this point, that's long gone. Just like her powers and her personality and any point she has in the show. They spend the first quarter of the season going on about how Bonnie needs to get back, and as soon as she does she stops appearing. I was hoping her storyline this season would be accepting that she's dead and finally moving on, but nope. Why do characters like Alaric and Lexi and Kol, hell even Jenna, get to stay dead but for her and Jeremy death is just a minor inconvenience?
Caroline is still being underutilized this season for some reason
Caroline never had much to do post season 2, much like Tyler, yet she always remained likeable. She does need a storyline that doesn't include love interests even if she has extreme chemistry with them. Expand on the idea that she loves being a vampire. Give her and Katherine more screentime, they made a good team.
And does anybody else find it funny that Tyler has had a bigger role on The Originals than here where he's still credited as a lead?
This season isn't necessarily bad, I've just grown tired of some of the characters
The character work this season has been atrocious, aside from Stefan and Katherine. I don't think Elena even has personality anymore. I'm still confused at Elena's latest reaction to murder considering how little she's cared in the past few seasons. It's very obvious they're focused entirely on The Originals, which is good because that show is excellent. On par with season 3, which remains my favourite season of this show.
Anyone here a fan of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia? It has to be one of the funniest shows I've ever seen. It's proof that a cast of selfish, idiotic and despicable people can and does work perfectly.
I can't believe I didn't watch or read Harry Potter for years. Having just marathoned the film series, I look back at my teenage self and am disappointed. I also look at my previous post in this thread and I'm confused as to why I put "Order of the Phoenix" as my favorite film when that is clearly not the case.
Favorite Book:[/b]Order of the Phoenix Favorite Film: Prisoner of Azkaban Least Favorite Film: Half Blood Prince Favorite Character(s): Severus Snape, Sirius Black, Remus Lupin, Luna Lovegood and Hermione Granger Least Favorite Character(s): Ginny Weasley, Dobby
When I was reading through the character bios, I noticed that almost none of the characters, at first glance, were conventionally likable. So, you'll just have to rely on good characterization, and development from these characters in order for people to get some level of care for them.
A conventionally good guy is all good, especially in a show about fighting the forces of darkness or evil aliens, that's the route you'd typically take. But in a drama like this, I don't want to see a good guy being good, I wanna see people being people, the good and the bad. People screwing up, being selfish, causing their own misery as well as their own happiness. That's what I want to read about. I'm not saying all my characters are going to be selfish assholes who only care about themselves, but I don't have much interest in writing the text book good guy. I've gotta strike the right balance between the two.
I'm all for the idea that a character doesn't have to be an instinctively good person for them to be liked. They just have to be an active part in moving the story forward as a "protagonist," and if these characters are interesting enough, and have those multi-faceted personalities, than I can see people really growing attached to them.
Yes, I wholeheartedly agree. The only way this show will work is if the characters are interesting and well-written and have an active part in the story, which is where all my attention is. I really do hope that my writing will be good enough to achieve this.
I see this show being very character driven, so it's a good thing you've enough characters for readers to pick out and get attached to. Personally, I'm very interested in Noah, Sofia, Sam, and Melanie - but it's still too early to tell. I can't wait to read a script so I can understand exactly how these characters work with one another, and how different their voices are. I imagine some really cool character moments and dialogue coming out of this show, just from reading the character bios and the overall circumstances these people are faced with every day.
Carey, Amin... this has gotten me very much intrigued. I look forward to seeing how this goes. Best of luck, you two!
It's gonna be heavily character driven, similar in a sense to Lost's early years or Six Feet Under. There's no grand plot, no rising up against a corrupt government or anything like that. It's about the characters and their lives in a shitty world.
And I think Amin and I are both happy you like those characters. I was so worried that nobody would care for any of them, so thank you for that little boost in confidence. I just hope we can live up to your excitement.