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Post by Jack Malone on May 22, 2015 17:32:45 GMT -6
What I don't support is the idea of the series running alongside "Arrow", "The Flash" and "Legends" (don't get me started on THAT whole thing!) - while I once believed "Oh, CBS and CW will never crossover, they're different networks", I know now that the CW is actually a subsiduary or similar of CBS so it could happen, and I think it would be disastrous for that. In a world as dark as "Arrow", and with "The Flash" introducing the idea of 'metahumans' slowly for the world to get used to the idea, the idea that Superman (and now Supergirl) is flying around somewhere, it just wouldn't really 'fit' with the world they have built, in my opinion. This is something that I've struggled with a little bit too, admittedly. However, I think it's more unrealistic if Starling City is just closed off from the expanded universe, and I think seeing those characters having to adjust to other threats will be fun to watch. And there will be crossovers between the shows; it was a deal Greg Berlanti made in the contract to allow Supergirl to crossover into the CW Shows. But I think I read somewhere that it wouldn't happen until a second season of Supergirl so we're potentially looking at the third season of The Flash, and the fifth (possibly final) season of Arrow. |
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Post by Darrin McCann on Aug 2, 2015 16:10:17 GMT -6
All uncertainty I felt from watching the trailer has lifted since watching the Pilot. Although it felt very rushed and jammed pack with information, I still felt a connection to the characters and am very excited to watch it in the fall. Even if I have to wait until November. It has been officially added to my To Watch list.
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Post by Ciarán Graham on Aug 3, 2015 11:14:14 GMT -6
Finally got around to watching this and I am very much on board. As one of the seven people who stuck with Glee until the end, I think Melissa Benoist is very capable (even if her character Marley outstayed her welcome by the end of season four) and was happy when she was cast. I was especially pleased that Kara seems very well-rounded and isn't Felicity 2.0 like some have been saying. The supporting cast didn't totally win me over in one episode, though Calista Flockhart was a highlight. Jimmy Olsen seems good enough, though I'm not hugely familiar with him (more Marvel than DC and Smallville - and by extension, Watchtower - are on my ever-growing "to watch/read" list), but Kara's sister didn't leave much of an impression and I hope they don't portray her coworker friend as too hapless.
Overall though, I thought they did a great job setting everything up in 45-odd minutes and Berlanti hasn't steered me wrong yet, so I'm definitely in.
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 3, 2016 16:42:08 GMT -6
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Post by Brian Melanson on Feb 3, 2016 17:20:00 GMT -6
Actually Karl, I'm going to have to disagree. I think this is great. One of the best things about Arrow/The Flash is when they do cross overs, and it's because we get an epic story and characters interact. It has been stated since SUPERGIRL was announced that it would take place in the same universe, so a crossover was bound to happen sooner rather than later. But I think it's a smart move, if they found the story, I have the upmost faith in the writers. I know Mellisa and Grant will work well together and I just don't see how this is any different than seeing Barry on Arrow or seeing Oliver on The Flash. I'm excited to see what brings Barry to National City, I will be watching this live and freaking out seeing my two faves interact.
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 3, 2016 17:43:10 GMT -6
Actually Karl, I'm going to have to disagree. I think this is great. One of the best things about Arrow/The Flash is when they do cross overs, and it's because we get an epic story and characters interact. It has been stated since SUPERGIRL was announced that it would take place in the same universe, so a crossover was bound to happen sooner rather than later. But I think it's a smart move, if they found the story, I have the upmost faith in the writers. I know Mellisa and Grant will work well together and I just don't see how this is any different than seeing Barry on Arrow or seeing Oliver on The Flash. I'm excited to see what brings Barry to National City, I will be watching this live and freaking out seeing my two faves interact. Well I for one think the idea of the two of them crossing over is kind of cheap. I would at least expect that Supergirl should have done a full season first and stood on her own before having to crossover with the others. I mean I love the Flash and I love Supergirl, But I feel like them crossing over now isnt something that should play out. If they found a story, kudos to them, I just feel like they sort of gave up on Supergirl in this instance in my eyes. Not to say Melissa isnt doing a fantastic job, but putting a crossover into a show that still has its freshmen outing just says you dont trust them on there own. But i do wish them all the best on it. |
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Post by Brian Melanson on Feb 3, 2016 18:09:01 GMT -6
Well I for one think the idea of the two of them crossing over is kind of cheap. I would at least expect that Supergirl should have done a full season first and stood on her own before having to crossover with the others. I mean I love the Flash and I love Supergirl, But I feel like them crossing over now isnt something that should play out. If they found a story, kudos to them, I just feel like they sort of gave up on Supergirl in this instance in my eyes. Not to say Melissa isnt doing a fantastic job, but putting a crossover into a show that still has its freshmen outing just says you dont trust them on there own. But i do wish them all the best on it. They crossed over the Flash and Arrow and Season One. And have already crossed characters over in Legends of Tomorrow. So I don't think it's too early for a cross over. I think it's going to boost ratings for both shows and I'm excited that Supergirl is finally getting the love she deserves. And Supergirl has stood on her own, I think it's time she's invited into the other shows. I think this will set up more crossovers for her to fly over to Central or Star city and we get a big DC team up. |
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 3, 2016 18:52:19 GMT -6
Well I for one think the idea of the two of them crossing over is kind of cheap. I would at least expect that Supergirl should have done a full season first and stood on her own before having to crossover with the others. I mean I love the Flash and I love Supergirl, But I feel like them crossing over now isnt something that should play out. If they found a story, kudos to them, I just feel like they sort of gave up on Supergirl in this instance in my eyes. Not to say Melissa isnt doing a fantastic job, but putting a crossover into a show that still has its freshmen outing just says you dont trust them on there own. But i do wish them all the best on it. They crossed over the Flash and Arrow and Season One. And have already crossed characters over in Legends of Tomorrow. So I don't think it's too early for a cross over. I think it's going to boost ratings for both shows and I'm excited that Supergirl is finally getting the love she deserves. And Supergirl has stood on her own, I think it's time she's invited into the other shows. I think this will set up more crossovers for her to fly over to Central or Star city and we get a big DC team up. I think it is. For One, Supergirl hasn't even had a full season before the invite of a crossover comes a knocking. Don't get me wrong, Jack and Alex can attest to the fact I love Crossovers, but to not let a show have its own season before shoving a crossover down our throats shows diservice. Lets NOT forget NOWHERE in Supergirl Promotional on tv or in show continuity, did they mention Star City, Central City or anything Flarrow related and vice versa about Superman, and/or Aliens, or SUPERGIRL I know youre all saying the Flash can just go to different realities, and all that jazz and the crossover can work, but why would you want it to when they havent given you a chance to enjoy the stories of the characters we already have BEFORE we they start trying to crossover all willy nilly |
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Post by Jack Malone on Feb 3, 2016 19:22:09 GMT -6
I don't agree. I'm a huge fan of The Flash, and I think the crossover has the opportunity to expose it to a bigger audience, and allow two characters that would naturally compliment each other to meet and have some fun. It's obvious the show doesn't need The Flash to boost its ratings, so the argument that they don't trust Supergirl to stand on their own doesn't seem accurate, in my opinion. I'm just glad its Supergirl/The Flash and not Supergirl/Arrow because you just know the Arrow writers would make Green Arrow ten times more powerful somehow than Supergirl because "skill beats powers." *rolls eyes* |
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 3, 2016 19:58:16 GMT -6
I don't agree. I'm a huge fan of The Flash, and I think the crossover has the opportunity to expose it to a bigger audience, and allow two characters that would naturally compliment each other to meet and have some fun. It's obvious the show doesn't need The Flash to boost its ratings, so the argument that they don't trust Supergirl to stand on their own doesn't seem accurate, in my opinion. I'm just glad its Supergirl/The Flash and not Supergirl/Arrow because you just know the Arrow writers would make Green Arrow ten times more powerful somehow than Supergirl because "skill beats powers." *rolls eyes* I agree the crossover is cool, but I still dont think they should do it now. I loved the idea of them keeping her disconnected from either Arrow or Flash. I honestly think Supergirl should have had a full season on her own. And to be honest if they wanted Supergirl and Flash to meet earlier, they shouldve started out with her crossed over with them. Also making it a one off will have to be addressed and brought up again and again. If that was the case why even come out and say that they arent connected. |
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Post by Jack Malone on Feb 3, 2016 20:02:53 GMT -6
I don't agree. I'm a huge fan of The Flash, and I think the crossover has the opportunity to expose it to a bigger audience, and allow two characters that would naturally compliment each other to meet and have some fun. It's obvious the show doesn't need The Flash to boost its ratings, so the argument that they don't trust Supergirl to stand on their own doesn't seem accurate, in my opinion. I'm just glad its Supergirl/The Flash and not Supergirl/Arrow because you just know the Arrow writers would make Green Arrow ten times more powerful somehow than Supergirl because "skill beats powers." *rolls eyes* I agree the crossover is cool, but I still dont think they should do it now. I loved the idea of them keeping her disconnected from either Arrow or Flash. I honestly think Supergirl should have had a full season on her own. And to be honest if they wanted Supergirl and Flash to meet earlier, they shouldve started out with her crossed over with them. Also making it a one off will have to be addressed and brought up again and again. If that was the case why even come out and say that they arent connected. They never said they weren't connected. It was created by the same people. When Supergirl was picked up, they had a contract to do crossovers. It was always intended to be in the same universe. The only thing they claimed that is contradicted right now is the fact that it's not happening in Season 2. The reason they couldn't introduce her through Arrow or Flash is because it's on a different network, however, what they could do when they got picked up was make sure they were allowed to do crossovers with The Flash/Arrow. |
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 4, 2016 2:14:00 GMT -6
I agree the crossover is cool, but I still dont think they should do it now. I loved the idea of them keeping her disconnected from either Arrow or Flash. I honestly think Supergirl should have had a full season on her own. And to be honest if they wanted Supergirl and Flash to meet earlier, they shouldve started out with her crossed over with them. Also making it a one off will have to be addressed and brought up again and again. If that was the case why even come out and say that they arent connected. They never said they weren't connected. It was created by the same people. When Supergirl was picked up, they had a contract to do crossovers. It was always intended to be in the same universe. The only thing they claimed that is contradicted right now is the fact that it's not happening in Season 2. The reason they couldn't introduce her through Arrow or Flash is because it's on a different network, however, what they could do when they got picked up was make sure they were allowed to do crossovers with The Flash/Arrow. Look they said personally in the beginning that she is separate from them and I wish they would have stood by that. If you're gonna commit and say this is your mission statement, then go for it. I just think a crossover with the Flash needs to be earned and you all can say, she's earned it, but I don't think she has. |
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Post by Jack Malone on Feb 4, 2016 5:08:25 GMT -6
They never said they weren't connected. It was created by the same people. When Supergirl was picked up, they had a contract to do crossovers. It was always intended to be in the same universe. The only thing they claimed that is contradicted right now is the fact that it's not happening in Season 2. The reason they couldn't introduce her through Arrow or Flash is because it's on a different network, however, what they could do when they got picked up was make sure they were allowed to do crossovers with The Flash/Arrow. Look they said personally in the beginning that she is separate from them and I wish they would have stood by that. If you're gonna commit and say this is your mission statement, then go for it. I just think a crossover with the Flash needs to be earned and you all can say, she's earned it, but I don't think she has. They never said it was separate. It's in the same Berlanti-Universe and has been since day one. They said that crossovers with The Flash or Arrow probably wouldn't be feasible until the second season, but that has obviously changed. Never have they said the universes aren't joined. That's all I'm saying. They're not contradicting anything. It was always the intent to crossover, and they made specific contracted plans to make sure the shows could, despite being on different networks. |
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 4, 2016 14:31:34 GMT -6
Look they said personally in the beginning that she is separate from them and I wish they would have stood by that. If you're gonna commit and say this is your mission statement, then go for it. I just think a crossover with the Flash needs to be earned and you all can say, she's earned it, but I don't think she has. They never said it was separate. It's in the same Berlanti-Universe and has been since day one. They said that crossovers with The Flash or Arrow probably wouldn't be feasible until the second season, but that has obviously changed. Never have they said the universes aren't joined. That's all I'm saying. They're not contradicting anything. It was always the intent to crossover, and they made specific contracted plans to make sure the shows could, despite being on different networks. I just think this crossover isn't going to be anything good. I know you guys are excited for it. And yay  , but this just feels like a misstep for Supergirl. If you guys dont, good. Enjoy the crossover, but I dislike it. But I hope you guys like it!! |
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Post by Darrin McCann on Apr 1, 2016 23:27:58 GMT -6
I want to start off by saying I love this show. I want to continue by saying that the crossover episode was horrible. If it wasn't for Cat's scenes and Calista Flockhart's phenomenal acting chops this episode, in my opinion, would have been a huge flop. I feel almost dirty writing the words because I am such an advocate for this show but this episode turned me completely away. Cringe-worthy dialogue. It was a no-holds-bar of cheesy one-liners and sloppy dialogue all around. I don't know if the acting was a result of the material they had to work with or what but it was ridiculously bad. I'm not exactly sure the point in Barry crossing over besides informing the masses that Supergirl takes place on another Earth. Oh, and now National City Police are equipped to handle Metahumans, which is kind of a big deal but was merely mention in quick passing. All the stuff that should have mattered didn't, and all the stuff that did shouldn't have. It was evidently clear that this episode was a last minute write or the very least a rewrite to include Barry. I'm crushed and a little disappointed.
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Post by Brady Brown on May 12, 2016 15:49:58 GMT -6
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Post by Brian Melanson on May 15, 2016 10:17:39 GMT -6
I hope we get more crossovers with the Flash, and just the Flash. Just cause Melissa and Grant are just the cutest |
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Post by Brady Brown on May 16, 2018 9:58:03 GMT -6
Supergirl has actually become my favorite CW-DC show at the moment. I'm loving Sam this season. She reminds me of Davis in S8 of Smallville. And Alex, Lena, and James continue to be standout characters for me.
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, but this just feels like a misstep for Supergirl. If you guys dont, good. Enjoy the crossover, but I dislike it. But I hope you guys like it!!
