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Post by The Doctor on Nov 19, 2012 18:57:22 GMT -6
Fine by me  . So long as no one actually starts to hate Helena. Because...I Feel bad for her. Plus she did some a favor by killing Harley. Although I have to know if We will find out what everyone has been up to for a year. Will anyone find out about Oliver? Or Dinah? And another thing....so since Ollie had his memories of Chloe wiped...does that mean he remembers certain events that happened over the last 6 years differently? |
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Post by Jack Malone on Nov 20, 2012 2:30:25 GMT -6
Fine by me . So long as no one actually starts to hate Helena. Because...I Feel bad for her. Plus she did some a favor by killing Harley. Although I have to know if We will find out what everyone has been up to for a year. Will anyone find out about Oliver? Or Dinah? And another thing....so since Ollie had his memories of Chloe wiped...does that mean he remembers certain events that happened over the last 6 years differently? I can say that Harley Quinn's death has more of an impact on Helena, than the way others view her. Given the circumstances, and how much pain she was put through, there's no one that really judges her for that, or has hate for her because of that. There's something in the premiere that Helena does that sort of shocks everyone, and she pretty much solidifies herself as an enemy, while not being "evil"- if that makes any sense. I'm really excited about it. At the moment, I don't think any of the characters can ever "hate" her, even after what she does, purely because they understand how much she's been through. But they don't agree with her, or what she does. Its going to be a really dark season for Helena. As for Dinah and Oliver. Its been a year later, so, as we already know, Dinah has been recruited for something involving the future, and while she thinks she already saved the future, we know, from "Alexandra" and Emil at the end of the finale that they really haven't. So, that will come into play later- Dinah will be back for at the very least, one episode. Possibly more but it really depends on the story. Oliver, on the other hand, will definitely be brought up by Lois in the season premiere. We'll hear what he's been up to. If Oliver were to be a part of the season premiere, I'd say he'd be rocking a goatee, be very dark and down as he never had Chloe there to bring him "out of the darkness". He'd be very confused, and frustrated because he'd be able to remember going to Gotham, but wouldn't be able to remember what brought him there in the first place- so, his head would be full of blanks, and a history with no explanation. He'd be very tormented, definitely. He would be back to his womanizing/playboy ways, but deep down, he'd be searching for companionship, knowing there is someone out there for him, but every woman he meets, he knows deep down that they're not the one. As the finale said, love comes from the heart, not the mind, so he needs to hold onto that. His memory was wiped, but those feelings weren't, so its got to be extremely hard for him. But of course, he'd be Green Arrow-ing it up in Star City. Definitely. |
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 20, 2012 9:39:58 GMT -6
Okay good. I'm glad that at least Lois will let at least one of the others know what's going on with Ollie. I mean Ollie's condition wasn't exactly broadcasted to the team. Considering he was trying to handle it alone and without Chloe finding out. Even though she did  And as for Helena....damnit Jack....stop making her life horrible . And another thing...I can't wait for "The dynamic duo". By that I mean Vicki and Perry. Perry really did a good job as WT so I would love to see how that goes for him. And I'm sure in the year between seasons 2 and 3 Vicki got some serious training  ))) |
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Post by Jack Malone on Nov 23, 2012 5:11:36 GMT -6
Okay good. I'm glad that at least Lois will let at least one of the others know what's going on with Ollie. I mean Ollie's condition wasn't exactly broadcasted to the team. Considering he was trying to handle it alone and without Chloe finding out. Even though she did And as for Helena....damnit Jack....stop making her life horrible . And another thing...I can't wait for "The dynamic duo". By that I mean Vicki and Perry. Perry really did a good job as WT so I would love to see how that goes for him. And I'm sure in the year between seasons 2 and 3 Vicki got some serious training ))) Lois being who she is would have noticed the activity of "Green Arrow" in Star City, and gone to him first. So we'll learn, in whatever capacity, what that was like (which will grant some insight into where Oliver is at this point in time). I'm looking forward to Lois' contribution to the premiere. Hopefully you all like it! Hahaha. I'm not completely making Helena's life horrible. I promise, there'll be some nice stuff in the premiere for her as well. Its just that level of anger and hatred is back, and out of that, comes some pretty bad decisions. As for Perry and Vicki- these two will very much be all for repairing Gotham, and keeping the streets clean. We know, from the finale, there's this other source of headquarters set up and ready, and that Perry was steered towards it, and chosen to run it, and so in the premiere, we're gonna find out where that base of operations is located, who knows about it, and who doesn't. XD |
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 23, 2012 16:13:41 GMT -6
Well I for one am ready for this The big question is....baby hope. And where her future is!!! |
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Post by Jack Malone on Nov 25, 2012 6:59:31 GMT -6
Well I for one am ready for this The big question is....baby hope. And where her future is!!! I'm quite happy with how things came to a close for Moira in the finale, because she's always been that absentee mother for Chloe, and so to have her end up with that second chance to raise Hope, and give her a normal life, and raise her like she always wanted to raise Chloe- I get quite excited just thinking about how well that came together because it wasn't really planned when I decided to bring Moira onto the show. As for this season, we're going to learn Moira's status, and there is going to be this sort of search for Hope. If I were to give anything away on it... ...Moira learned from the best in her approach to "running away" with Hope, and definitely within the first half of the season we'll have all the pieces come together to form an explanation of her journey since "Anarchy". I'm really excited for the episode that all this comes to a head. XD |
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 25, 2012 15:10:28 GMT -6
Yea . Neither can I. So tell me more about Vicki and her thought process coming into this season. Because the finale left picking perry out of the gutter |
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Post by Jack Malone on Nov 25, 2012 19:13:23 GMT -6
Yea . Neither can I. So tell me more about Vicki and her thought process coming into this season. Because the finale left picking perry out of the gutter You're quite the interviewer, Karl. Well, one of my favourite scenes to write in the finale was when Vicki was basically like "look at me. I'm still standing here. I'm still alive. I haven't been dragged under like the rest of the city." And so, on that note, we're going to see a much more determined, stronger character from her, and there's still progress to be made on that front, but she's definitely heading in that direction. She's very much still that eager reporter who believes that uncovering the truth is a huge part of what will bring Gotham out of the "darkness" so to speak. |
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 26, 2012 14:11:14 GMT -6
Nice. Now the character that everyone is going to ask about
Perry White. What's his thought process coming into Season Three? Does he know Chloe's dead? And why was he chosen for WT?
And will he be able to walk again?
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Post by David on Nov 26, 2012 14:14:56 GMT -6
Okay, after being an uber creep, I went onto one of the old websites and found that the tagline (Which I love) was the one you used for btvs season 8
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Post by Jack Malone on Nov 27, 2012 0:03:53 GMT -6
Nice. Now the character that everyone is going to ask about Perry White. What's his thought process coming into Season Three? Does he know Chloe's dead? And why was he chosen for WT? And will he be able to walk again? Perry is very much in the mindset of moving on, but he's torn in that decision to do so, and not entirely sure if he's ready. Its been a year, he's still bound in a chair, and so it is permanent. Something may or may not change those circumstances somewhere down the line- I know he's not crippled in the comics, but it doesn't really affect his story if he remains in the chair or not. In regards to Chloe's death, he's aware, and part of what is keeping him in Gotham is the idea that Bruce has this plan to bring her back, and he's cynical, but secretly hopeful, that eventually Chloe will come back. But yes, Perry's mindset is locked into a "time to move on" phase, where he's trying to put everything in the past and achieve his dreams, but is bound, physically and emotionally. The decision to have Perry be Watchtower came from the idea that it was his idol in the first season, and I think in a lot of ways, it was nice for development purposes to see where he came from, to where he is- placing him in that role he idolized at the beginning of the series. As for why Chloe personally left the job to him, it comes down to who she trusted the most in that role, and who she could see keeping an unbiased, just eye on the city of Gotham. Perry never considered himself as much of a hero either, similarly to Mia's attitude in the first season, so this basically enforces the idea that Chloe viewed him as a hero, so much that she gave him Watchtower. |
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 27, 2012 18:43:55 GMT -6
Nice . I'm loving that you are adding all this So what's going on with Mr. Wayne? Whats his mindset? Is he feeling survivors guilt? And what's his relationship with the gang coming into this new year? |
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Post by David on Nov 27, 2012 19:53:22 GMT -6
And is he still into Chloe? I think you should play with that a little bit
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Post by Jack Malone on Nov 27, 2012 21:59:06 GMT -6
Nice . I'm loving that you are adding all this So what's going on with Mr. Wayne? Whats his mindset? Is he feeling survivors guilt? And what's his relationship with the gang coming into this new year? Bruce has really zoned everything else out in this one goal to resurrect Chloe. The idea that its possible, that little string of hope, has been given to him throughout this year that has passed, so its really motivated him to work to building the city back up, reconstructing it, investing in it, etc. So, what happens if that string is cut? That's something the premiere will look at for him. How far is he willing to go to bring Chloe back? Of course, he will be battling the idea of whether or not to come forward as Batman. This is one of the final elements that establishes "Batman" into the mythology, and sets out that platform for him- does he tell Gotham that Bruce Wayne is Batman? He feels like if Chloe had known who he was, she would have never of died. As we know, part of Emil's message said that she would "bring Bruce to-" and before she cut herself off, she was going to say The Joker. So if she had known that they were one in the same, she may have been able to avoid it. That's very much his mindset. Now that Vicki is really honing on him as the Bat, he's juggling with this decision. I'm really excited about this aspect of his arc, because I think it will really solidify "Batman" on the show. In terms of his relationship with the gang- I feel like, at this point in the story, there isn't much of a "team". Everyone is sort of doing their own thing, and while there are some "duo" alliances here and there, everyone has broken off. We have Huntress back now. Batman, in full effect. Perry as Watchtower. So, there's not much of a team when you think about it. But, in terms of his interactions with the other characters- there's Gordon, Vicki, Alfred, etc. And is he still into Chloe? I think you should play with that a little bit That's something I do want to touch on. However, Bruce is also very determined to find Selina. At the moment, we'll learn that all the people that have gone missing, Holly and Selina included, have been "pronounced" dead, because of how long they've been gone for and the lack of evidence to support otherwise. Some new evidence arises in the premiere that resurrects that hope. XD |
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 28, 2012 13:26:38 GMT -6
Well I for one am ready and excited for this So why did you choose Lois over Clark to appear? I mean considering that he knew she was alive this whole time And also how did Lois even know she was dead unless Clark was "watching" from afar again and didn't step in to save her |
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Post by David on Nov 28, 2012 15:58:17 GMT -6
I think I have the answer for why she chose Lo over Clark.
1) Clark had a full 10 season TV show on him and Lois was only in there for 7 of the seasons
2) The main reason that they brought Lois onto the show was to investigate Chloe's death.
And to answer your second question, Chloe's family probably knew, or it was in the obituaries, which wouldn't make much sense as Chloe lives in New York and Lois and Clark live in Kansas, and the Daily Planet probably doesn't print everybody's deaths
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Post by Brady Brown on Dec 4, 2012 6:47:01 GMT -6
Ugh, Jack, omg. I'm so curious as to his this new Kyle dude is. I'm guessing he has some scream power since he first appears in Echo? Maybe? Possibly? Probably not? Anyways, that's my conspiracy of the day... -suspenseful music-
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 4, 2012 15:01:22 GMT -6
Ugh, Jack, omg. I'm so curious as to his this new Kyle dude is. I'm guessing he has some scream power since he first appears in Echo? Maybe? Possibly? Probably not? Anyways, that's my conspiracy of the day... -suspenseful music- Haha. Brady . That's what I was thinking. That's the one character I won't ask about. Jack probably wants to keep him as under wrapped as possible. I think his power has to do with dead people.hahaha |
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