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Post by The Doctor on May 7, 2013 13:59:41 GMT -6
Well I for one find it great that this season is the darker season.  But now I have a series of questions for you!! 1. I noticed in S2 Dinah's story ended with her going with a certain group of people. Did anybody on the home team notice she went missing?! 2. The whole Hush thing....why exactly did you pick him as the big bad for S3?! 3. When Chloe comes back, will she be telling Clark and Lana and others that she's alive?! 4. Will Chloe and Helena share screen time when Chloe returns?! Because I feel like with Chloe back it might make Helena less evil 5. Will Bruce ever find out Selina was pregnant with his child?! 6. Will we actually get Chloe's state of mind of being brought back?! Kind of like what happened with Buffy in S6 7. Will the Home Team get back together before the end of the season?! 8. Without spoiling, what exactly is Zatannas role in the first half of the season?! Considering she isn't in the finale anymore! 9. With Selina only being in five episodes, will she have time to get a brief recap of her year away from Gotham?! Or will her return just to be getting revenge?! 10. Will Chloe confront Bruce about the fact that he is batman?! 11. Will Chloe be kicking ass this season once she comes back?! And that's all I got so far. I'm sure I'll get more |
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Post by Jamison on May 7, 2013 18:28:08 GMT -6
I'll go ahead and ask some questions...
For me, season one of Watchtower was really about establishment; setting Chloe up in Gotham City, establishing Watchtower as a symbol of hope. Season 2 cemented that symbol, and really brought some interesting questions up about what Chloe really wants out of her life. Not only that, but it introduced some pretty important characters from the DC universe, and also further established Chloe's role in the heroes (most notable through the Dark Knight) journey, and how her personality and influence serves as a crucial part in the development and growth of the characters around her.
That being said, going into season three, what would you say is the overarching theme of the season?
Season three usually marks a big change, not only for characters but also for plot. How would you describe that shift, if one even exists, from the previous two seasons to now, in season three?
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Post by Jack Malone on May 7, 2013 18:59:04 GMT -6
Well I for one find it great that this season is the darker season. But now I have a series of questions for you!! Hehehe, if anyone doesn't know this, I loooove getting questions, and especially Karl's. Swear, man, you should be one of those people that dig spoilers out of people for like TVLine or something- you'd be really great for it, I reckon. Okay, onto the questions! In the finale, I think everyone was just being sucked into all this kind of explosive drama of their own, that it kind of went unnoticed, and, now in Season Three, its been a year since "Anarchy" so its not as fresh to everyone. It will come up eventually, but not straight off the bat. I think the bigger question for her is what is sooooo bad that she's been ripped out of the present to prepare and train for the future... The "Hush" comic book is my all-time favourite Batman comic. I've read it s ooooo many times, and the villain 'Hush' is probably my favourite Batman baddie. I also loved that "Heart of Hush" series, where Selina got meeeessed up. Last season, The Joker suggested that one of the largest forms of structure in Gotham is the distinct difference between the rich and the poor, and he wanted to destroy that to complete this plan of total anarchy. This season, in a few ways, continues to dig into that social structure, and I needed a stronger-than-most big bads at the forefront of all of that. Plus, with this subplot of finding all the Arkham escapees throughout the season, I needed someone new, and Hush really brings that too. On screen- well, more like on paper- Lois will be someone who becomes "in the know" of it all. I think it'll all come back to that interaction they shared in 'Pariah' where Chloe asked if you know someone's secret, but they don't know you know, do you tell them... and its kind of a situation where Lois will say, 'I wish you would tell Clark, I wish you would come home,' but ultimately, its up to Chloe, when she's ready to do it. There's a few things holding her back, especially this fight for Gotham's preservation, finding her daughter, and hopefully, bringing the old Oliver back. But there is progress on her old life meshing with her new life, and that will eventually come to a head before the season/series is over. They definitely will. Unfortunately, there's quite a large conflict between the two characters, mostly on Helena's part. She's quite bitter towards Chloe- on one hand, she got to come back from the dead, and her father didn't. Although petty, very human, and something anyone experiencing loss may question- if, you know, resurrection existed- not even that, if someone you thought the world of died, and someone who was, to some, morally shifty, survived. And, as well as that, Helena is on this incredibly dark path because she took Harley Quinn's life, and since then, everything has changed, and Chloe allowed her to do that, knowing full well she wasn't in the right mind frame. While Helena does accept responsibility for her own actions, she's a bit destroyed over the fact Chloe wasn't there for her when she needed her the most, and that was in "Anarchy". They have a loooong journey this season, but Chloe is quite hellbent on saving her, and being there for her now, more than ever. This could definitely come up somewhere in the last three episodes of Selina's arc ('Thief,' 'DNA', 'Condemned'). There is quite a lot to talk about when Selina finally does resurface, between her and Bruce, that will be tackled. Whether or not that is going to be a part of it, I can't quite say a definite "yes" or "no". Do you mean how Buffy struggled with this idea of being in 'heaven' but coming back to some kind of 'hell', even though all her loved ones are there? I'm not too sure what you mean by 'state of mind'. When Chloe does come back, though, she's kind of got this clean slate, in that, there is no future set in stone for her anymore because she was meant to die in 'Anarchy', end of story. But Bruce brought her back. There's a few consequences that surface from her returning, that will surface in the first three episodes of the season, and its one of the most interesting storylines of the series, I would say, so I can't wait for you guys to get to it, and for me to have the time to write it. XD There will be a huge-ass home team for Season Four. How's that? Hahaha. HUGE-ASS HOME TEAM. New nickname there, huh? But no, I think this season, considering its meant to be everyone's darkest, there's no real sense of security for anyone that the Watchtower building used to supply. Chloe's kind of sticking around to pick up the pieces, Bruce is doing his own thing, and so is Helena, Perry is trying to move on with his life, and everyone else is kind of gone. But yeah, I'm not joking when I say Season Four will have a pretty big home team. I know that's a long way away, but I'm still adamant about doing five season, should I find the time, and Season Four has that element from Season One back in it. Promise. Zatanna manages to execute the supernatural elements of this Smallville/Trinity/Watchtower universe, that I think allows for the audience to just understand instantly without having all this exposition. She's not just a plot device, in those regards, but its a feature of her character that is really convenient and fun to work with. Basically, this season has a few supernatural elements involved- resurrection, being one of them- and Zatanna kind of works to maintain that when it gets out of hand. She shares most of her scenes with Chloe and Bruce, and yeah- that's the main reason I can explain why she's got a larger role this season than the others, without giving too much away. These elements of the supernatural call for Zatanna to be in the story. Revenge definitely drives her this season. She wants to reveal who Hush is, and bring him down. She comes back with this attitude of not needing anyone else, not needing to be with Bruce, or be friends with anyone, which is eventually addressed in her last episode. There's going to be a really nice moment with Chloe and Selina that I can't wait to write, that I think fans should enjoy. And I'm getting sidetracked. We will learn about her year, and she will catch on, and be told, certain aspects of everyone else's year- mainly because she'll learn Bruce spent his whole year trying to save Chloe, instead of finding Selina. I know... ouch! But yes, revenge is at the core of her arc. Definitely. Bruce really guilts himself for Chloe's death. Had she known Bruce was Batman, she would have probably realised he would be safe, and strayed from him, instead of 'leading him to The Joker' and boom- dead. I think Chloe's more adamant this season about making sure Bruce isn't working alone, and there's going to be a closer bond between those two, but whether or not there's going to be this shock factor of, "you're Batman?!" I think we've already kind of seen that on the rooftop at the end of last season. This will be more about making sure Bruce isn't in over his head, knows what he's doing, and offers a hand to make sure he's not alone, and won't get himself killed. F*ck yes, she will be! Ohmygod. Hahaha. Sorry, but lets just say the characters get wind of this not-really-a-prophecy-but-more-a-saying-from-someone-in-the-future-who-is-aware-of-what-happens *gasps for breath* and that is "One will rise. The rest will fall." Chloe gets that, and you know what she does? Fights like HELL to make sure she isn't one of the fallen. We'll get to see her train more this season, and prepare herself for more hand-to-hand combat, as well as using crossbows, and knives, and guns, etc. She's pretty determined to come out this season alive, despite the unpromising fact that fate isn't telling her, "you have to live because you have THIS destiny ahead of you," or "you will die if you stay and fight because you have THIS destiny ahead of you," etc. She's pretty freak'n fierce this season, and I can't wait to write a stronger, more confident Chloe Sullivan. XD |
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Post by Jack Malone on May 7, 2013 20:00:50 GMT -6
I'll go ahead and ask some questions... For me, season one of Watchtower was really about establishment; setting Chloe up in Gotham City, establishing Watchtower as a symbol of hope. Season 2 cemented that symbol, and really brought some interesting questions up about what Chloe really wants out of her life. Not only that, but it introduced some pretty important characters from the DC universe, and also further established Chloe's role in the heroes (most notable through the Dark Knight) journey, and how her personality and influence serves as a crucial part in the development and growth of the characters around her. That being said, going into season three, what would you say is the overarching theme of the season?
Season three usually marks a big change, not only for characters but also for plot. How would you describe that shift, if one even exists, from the previous two seasons to now, in season three?Thank you for such an easy question, man. I really appreciate it -.- Hahahaha. One of the biggest changes this season is how much darker it is in comparison to the other two seasons, for both characters and plot. Everyone is playing by their own rules, and heading on their own individual paths- there is no sense of a familial link between the characters being part of some team with one mission, its very much Chloe wants this, does this, Bruce wants this, does this, Helena, Perry, etc. They're all quite isolated in that, which all comes down to this overarching theme of 'one will rise, the rest will fall.' Whether that means, as a united force, they will all prevail, or if its related to the contrasting relationships between the rich and the poor, and that overall presence this season, or even the basic meaning of ONE character will rise above it all, while everyone else is doomed to fall... its something that is tackled throughout the season. But its really hard to say what is the ULTIMATE theme of the season, because there's also really strong elements/themes of lies, deceit, betrayal, power, revenge, and of course, destiny that weave throughout. Last season was really all about identity, and the season before that was all about, in its simplest form, good and evil- what's right, what's wrong [through Chloe/Emil, Bruce's path of revenge/justice, as with steering Helena in the right direction, etc.] This season's main theme will become clearer as I get buried into writing it, but as for the moment, I haven't been able to go 'THIS is the definitive theme of the season', because all the right pieces of the puzzle haven't fallen into place yet. But what's mentioned above is some of what you can expect. |
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Post by The Doctor on May 9, 2013 0:14:52 GMT -6
Well im all for the fact that Chloe doesnt have a "Set" destiny I mean it sucks that things have been hectic for her, but at least she can now forge her own path. Another question I have is that will Vicki be having any scenes where she gets to kick some ass? |
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Post by Jack Malone on May 9, 2013 0:40:10 GMT -6
Well im all for the fact that Chloe doesnt have a "Set" destiny I mean it sucks that things have been hectic for her, but at least she can now forge her own path. Another question I have is that will Vicki be having any scenes where she gets to kick some ass? As much as I would love to have all the characters be incredibly skilled at kicking some serious ass, I have to honor the character traits they do have, and 'kicking ass' isn't really one of Vicki's yet. I think, this season, more than last, we'll see her strength develop. She has quite the encounter with Hush, where its close, physical combat that is required of her. She's can't really keep up, like others would, but she still displays some knowledge and skill. Its very basic for her, at the moment. Will there be some badass moments where she surprises you? Definitely. Will she be able to kick some serious ass? Not in the capacity of say, Bruce, or Selina, or even Chloe, etc. Eventually, that's the plan. She is, however, much more confident in herself, but she is aware of her limits. |
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Post by The Doctor on May 9, 2013 2:18:55 GMT -6
Well im all for the fact that Chloe doesnt have a "Set" destiny I mean it sucks that things have been hectic for her, but at least she can now forge her own path. Another question I have is that will Vicki be having any scenes where she gets to kick some ass? As much as I would love to have all the characters be incredibly skilled at kicking some serious ass, I have to honor the character traits they do have, and 'kicking ass' isn't really one of Vicki's yet. I think, this season, more than last, we'll see her strength develop. She has quite the encounter with Hush, where its close, physical combat that is required of her. She's can't really keep up, like others would, but she still displays some knowledge and skill. Its very basic for her, at the moment. Will there be some badass moments where she surprises you? Definitely. Will she be able to kick some serious ass? Not in the capacity of say, Bruce, or Selina, or even Chloe, etc. Eventually, that's the plan. She is, however, much more confident in herself, but she is aware of her limits. Thats what I was hoping for . Another question I have is, Will Chloe get a new codename? I mean considering she isnt WT anymore  |
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Post by Brady Brown on May 9, 2013 18:28:41 GMT -6
Okay, so, I know. I've been gone for a while, and I haven't regularly put insane posts in the thread. SO. I just thought I would come and remind you that I'm really excited for S3, as you probably know. I'm really stoked to see how Helena changes over the course of the season, and... well... I'm just excited for anything HELENA. But yes, I'm just excited for everything! Like, legit. Everything. Sorry the writing process hasn't been as good as you'd hope it'd be because of school. Hopefully it all works out, 'cause I love me some Watchtower. So, sorry this isn't that long, but... here's a GIF to make up for everything! |
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Post by Jack Malone on May 11, 2013 4:42:59 GMT -6
Okay, so, I know. I've been gone for a while, and I haven't regularly put insane posts in the thread. SO. I just thought I would come and remind you that I'm really excited for S3, as you probably know. I'm really stoked to see how Helena changes over the course of the season, and... well... I'm just excited for anything HELENA. But yes, I'm just excited for everything! Like, legit. Everything. Sorry the writing process hasn't been as good as you'd hope it'd be because of school. Hopefully it all works out, 'cause I love me some Watchtower. So, sorry this isn't that long, but... here's a GIF to make up for everything! HAHAHA! Thanks, Brady! Yeah, school is kind of getting in the way of the writing process, but I've got all the episodes planned out, which makes it even more frustrating because I would love to just sit down and write  Anyway, my exams are all over at the start of November, so I think its best to leave the writing/airing till then, so I'm not distracted. With that said, I started making the episode title cards, and will post some of the 'unofficial' episode descriptions. They'll change closer to air dates so some major spoilers aren't, you know, ousted earlier than wanted. XD  SEASON PREMIERE. ONE YEAR LATER - In an attempt to resurrect Chloe (Allison Mack), Bruce (Christian Bale) turns to Ra's Al Ghul (guest star Liam Neeson). However, when Bruce realises Ra's comes with an alterior motive, he finds himself locked in battle with the immortal warrior. Back in Gotham, Lois (special guest star Erica Durance) is on a mission to uncover the truth about her cousin's disappearance, and stumbles across the key to all her questions: Perry White (Michael McKean). Helena (Kayla Ewell) is able to launch her crusade against the criminal and the corrupt when Gordon (Dylan Walsh) is taken down by Hush, but becomes the city's most wanted when her tactics prove to be most dangerous. Meanwhile, Vicki (Vvonne Strahovski) comes to realise that the city's white knight and dark knight could be one in the same.  WELCOME TO THE LEAGUE OF SHADOWS - When a series of vivid dreams lead Chloe (Allison Mack) on an investigation, she crosses paths with the league of shadows, and is kidnapped. Reunited with old friend, Kyle Williams (Bryan Greenb+erg), the two plan an escape. However, when their attempt to break free fails, Kyle is forced to rely on a unique ability that comes at a price. Bruce (Christian Bale) breaks his alliance with Vicki (Yvonne Strahovski) in order to protect her in the hunt to find the missing citizens of Gotham, and turns to Commissioner Gordon (Dylan Walsh) instead. Offended, Vicki tackles her own lead, coming face to face with Hush. Meanwhile, when stumbling upon Helena's (Kayla Ewell) hit list, Lisa (guest star Lizzy Caplan) finds a name that worries her. Michael McKean also stars.  DC COMICS 'TWO-FACE' RETURNS WITH A VENGEANCE- Following the death of his wife, Gordon (Dylan Walsh) gains full custody of his daughter, Barbara (special guest star Emma Stone), who is reluctant to get involved with the dangerous life he leads in Gotham City. Chosen to show her the safer side of the city, Chloe (Allison Mack) and Bruce (Christian Bale) are ambushed in the streets by a vengeful Two-Face (guest stars Mark Valley), who uses Barbara as a weapon to call out The Batman. Desperate to save his daughter, Gordon succumbs to Two-Face's demands, as Batman's approach to dealing with the mad-man clash with The Huntress' (Kayla Ewell)- to kill or imprison? Meanwhile, in an attempt to solve the mystery behind Chloe's strange dreams, Zatanna (guest star Serinda Swan) performs a spell that awakens a great evil.  STANA KATIC JOINS THE CAST AS "TALIA AL GHUL". THE CIRCLE IS FORMED - Convinced that Talia Al Ghul (Stana Katic) holds the secrets to defeating Hush, Chloe (Allison Mack) insists on releasing her from her tomb, with the help of Zatanna's (guest star Serinda Swan) spellbook. In order to complete the ritual, Chloe, Bruce (Christian Bale), Helena (Kayla Ewell), Vicki (Yvonne Strahovski), Kyle (Bryan Greenberg) and Lisa (guest star Lizzy Caplan) are joined as one. However, in doing so, they are all bound, in life and death, with Talia. Meanwhile, Perry (Michael McKean) is forced to reveal his deep dark secret, and someone else reveals they are not who they appear to be.  PATRICK J ADAMS GUEST STARS AS DC COMICS' NIGHTWING. ITS TIME TO FACE YOUR DEMONS - After preventing Helena (Kayla Ewell) from going over the edge, Nightwing (guest star Patrick J Adams) takes her under his guidance to help release her rage. But when he uncovers The Joker's (guest star Joseph Gordon Levitt) scheme behind bars involves Tony Zucco (guest star TBA), Nightwing is forced to face his own demons. On the cusp of catching Scarecrow (guest star James Frain), Gordon (Dylan Walsh) enlists The Batman (Christian Bale) to lure the Arkham escapee into a trap. However, they soon discover they're the ones being fooled, and both Chloe (Allison Mack) and Kyle (Bryan Greenberg) get caught in the crossfire of it all. Meanwhile, Perry's (Michael McKean) condition worsens with hallucinations of his past.  TOM WELLING AND SAM WITWER SPECIAL GUEST STAR AS CLARK LUTHOR, AND DAVIS BLOOME. WELCOME TO THE NEW WORLD - When Talia (Stana Katic) destroys the only device capable of breaking the circle, Chloe (Allison Mack) uses the Krypontian mirror box and travels to Earth-2 to find a duplicate. In her arrival, she stumbles across Clark Luthor (special guest star Tom Welling), and learns this wicked alter-ego is in possession of the device. In order to obtain it, Chloe unites with Davis Bloome (special guest star Sam Witwer). Back on Earth, Chloe's counterpart comes into possession of Watchtower, and uses its knowledge as leverage against Bruce (Christian Bale), Helena (Kayla Ewell) and Perry (Michael McKean) to break the link between parallel worlds. However, Talia has different plans for her in mind. Some of the title cards and descriptions are expected to change. |
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Post by Jamison on May 11, 2013 10:32:46 GMT -6
^ Those are EPIC Jack! I can't tell you how excited I am for season three! The story you've laid out seems like it'll be the best so far. And these title cards are amazing. Some of your BEST for Watchtower!  |
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Post by The Doctor on May 11, 2013 12:23:01 GMT -6
DEAR GOD......I am totally ready for the Mirror Episode ANd the fact that they are all going to be bound together....through life and death.....THAT IS AWESOME |
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Post by Jack Malone on May 11, 2013 23:09:19 GMT -6
^ Those are EPIC Jack! I can't tell you how excited I am for season three! The story you've laid out seems like it'll be the best so far. And these title cards are amazing. Some of your BEST for Watchtower! Hahaha, thanks Chris! I'm really excited for the arcs this season, both individual character ones, and the overall plot. A lot of people label the third season of any show as the best, or at least, a lot grander than the previous two, and I really want to achieve that for Watchtower's third year. Hopefully I succeed, and you guys like it! DEAR GOD......I am totally ready for the Mirror Episode ANd the fact that they are all going to be bound together....through life and death.....THAT IS AWESOME There's so much to do with binding them all together. First, I remember last season, you guys were like, "stop killing everyone off." Well, this kind of guarantees a better chance of survival for those involved in "the circle" or whatnot. As well as that, the episode after "Mirror" is where Bruce's life is in danger, and so Talia is forced to step up and play his bodyguard to ensure her own survival, which kind of kick starts that dynamic in a huge way. There's a lot of reason why this "bound through life and death" thing is happening, and I can't wait to dig through it all. Really excited |
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Post by The Doctor on May 12, 2013 1:44:28 GMT -6
Im already excited . Im also excited for Kyle's episode. I mean he only shows up in episode 2 and just reading those descriptions....he is literally in like all of these episodes |
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Post by Dan Wallace on May 13, 2013 13:14:38 GMT -6
Oh my god. Jack, those spoilers just about gave me a heart attack. God I really need to finish reading the rest of Watchtower. Just about everything in those spoilers sounds fantastic, totally never thought of having Davis in the other world lol.
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Post by Jack Malone on May 14, 2013 7:30:59 GMT -6
Oh my god. Jack, those spoilers just about gave me a heart attack. God I really need to finish reading the rest of Watchtower. Just about everything in those spoilers sounds fantastic, totally never thought of having Davis in the other world lol. Thanks Dan! Ugh, last season, I remember talking about bringing Davis back for an Earth-2 episode, and I finally found a way to do that for this season. I just love the idea that if Clark is destined to be a force of evil in the world, and become a controlling, unstoppable alien, then Doomsday would be the solution to saving Earth-2 from Ultraman, as opposed to being doomed to be the villain in this Earth. So that's where the idea came from, and I seriously can't wait to write the episode, haha |
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Post by Jack Malone on May 14, 2013 7:32:50 GMT -6
Im already excited . Im also excited for Kyle's episode. I mean he only shows up in episode 2 and just reading those descriptions....he is literally in like all of these episodes Kyle has a huuuuge role this season. I'm really looking forward to peeling back all the layers of the character and establishing who he is in this Watchtower/Trinity/Smallville universe. He's definitely going to be labelled as a pivotal figure in Chloe's life, for sure, which means he'll be popping up quite a lot throughout the course of the season/series. Plus, one of the first original characters! *leap of joy* |
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Post by Dan Wallace on May 14, 2013 11:04:30 GMT -6
I just love the idea that if Clark is destined to be a force of evil in the world, and become a controlling, unstoppable alien, then Doomsday would be the solution to saving Earth-2 from Ultraman, as opposed to being doomed to be the villain in this Earth. So that's where the idea came from, and I seriously can't wait to write the episode, haha WOW! I never thought of it like that..that is a pretty damn fantastic approach, and I am soooo looking forward to that. Oh and while I'm here, as I've been watching through Smallville I'm catching little things I didn't remember, and I don't remember if they already used this in the later season, but in Season 3 Chloe mentions that bit about finding her mother, and that the insanity that her mother suffers from is hereditary, did you ever think to use that in any of your storylines? Maybe feature Arkham?....wait...maybe you have!?! God I really need to get caught up before I start asking things lol. |
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Post by The Doctor on May 14, 2013 13:30:02 GMT -6
Im already excited . Im also excited for Kyle's episode. I mean he only shows up in episode 2 and just reading those descriptions....he is literally in like all of these episodes Kyle has a huuuuge role this season. I'm really looking forward to peeling back all the layers of the character and establishing who he is in this Watchtower/Trinity/Smallville universe. He's definitely going to be labelled as a pivotal figure in Chloe's life, for sure, which means he'll be popping up quite a lot throughout the course of the season/series. Plus, one of the first original characters! *leap of joy* Well im glad that you decided to make an original character. I just have to ask, Why did you decide now to make an original character? |
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Anyway, my exams are all over at the start of November, so I think its best to leave the writing/airing till then, so I'm not distracted. With that said, I started making the episode title cards, and will post some of the 'unofficial' episode descriptions. They'll change closer to air dates so some major spoilers aren't, you know, ousted earlier than wanted. XD
