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Post by Jamison on Jul 30, 2012 14:49:00 GMT -6
Jack, I'm reading "Birth," crying as I do. Gah, I'll try leaving a full review later today. But oh my goodness, it's so good!  |
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Post by Jack Malone on Jul 30, 2012 23:28:27 GMT -6
^Haha, sorry for the crying!! But I'm glad you liked it!! Looking forward to your review! XD
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Post by Brady Brown on Aug 3, 2012 19:52:40 GMT -6
Review: 2.20 "Birth"Okay, I know this makes me sound like the biggest jerk ever, but I loved the opening scene sosososososososo much, because it really gave Chloe and slap in the face and be like, "SEE WHAT YOU DID?" And even though I love Chloe, I really think she needed that, to see what she's done to Oliver, which I'm still devastated he's leaving... Mhm. Yeah. XD And, holy crap, SELINA AND ALFRED'S DIALOGUE. I'm dying. Dude, they better have a bazillion more scenes together before she leaves, which I'm also sad about. I'm beginning to think you're sending off all these characters I love, because you have this "VENDETTA" against me. Hehe..see what I did there? But seriously, WAT UP WIT DAT? I think the pacing of the beginning of the episode was a bit off for me. We didn't really get to see any of Chloe in her room going through labor. Might just be me, but I think seeing more of her would've made the pacing flow better. THE JOKER
Come on, Helena. You think I’m
going to just... kill you? NO. NO YOU'RE NOT, JOKER. BECAUSE HELENA IS SO COOL AND AWESOME SHE CAN SURVIVE ANYTHING. Eh-hem...sorry. Like I said before...I think, Toyman is getting exceptionally creepy with each episode he is featured in. XD And The Joker and Harley are just always creepy. Jeez these villains. HAHAHA. Whoa. Whoa. She? SHE? SHE?! Not even gonna lie, was totally expecting it to be a boy. And I sorta wanted it to be a boy...but a girl's fine, too. MUST. KEEP. READING. TO FIND. OUT. NAME. BTW, these clown names... -DEAD- And, Bruce, Dinah AND VICKI kicking major boo-tay?! Um, YES PLEASE. Also, please add Zsasz to the list of creepy individuals above. Not to sure how I feel about Chloe being able to kick, headbutt and all that jazz after just giving birth. Now, I've never experience, but from sources, I've heard it's pretty painful. Don't get me wrong, it was EPIC. But...maybe a tad bit unrealistic for me. Maybe. I don't know. Never given birth. XD Selina is...she's... PREGNANT?!?!?!?!!??!!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!!? The scene between Chloe and Zsasz in the hallway, was a real powerful scene for me. Chloe basically did what she was upset at Oliver for, even if she didn't mean to do the deed she just did. But, yeah, props. -golf claps- SO MANY TWISTS JACK. Ohmygoodness. And even though the pacing was sorta off at the beginning, the whole episode kinda made up for it. HAHAHA. So, yeah, this might outdo "Torn" for my favorite episode of the season. MAYBE. Okay, it did. XD 10/10 -- amazing episode!
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Post by David on Aug 3, 2012 20:33:11 GMT -6
BRADY! YOU SHOULD HAVE JUST MADE THE WHOLE THING A SPOILER! YOU GAVE SO MUCH AWAY!
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Post by Brady Brown on Aug 3, 2012 20:44:24 GMT -6
You didn't have to read my review, or you could've just read the episode for yourself.
EDIT: And I really don't recall giving anything away. I kept the major things I mentioned in the spoiler tags.
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Post by MJ on Aug 3, 2012 20:50:47 GMT -6
I was always under the impression that once an episode aired people could write whatever they wanted about it in the discussion thread?
And if you don't want to have anything spoiled, because you haven't yet read the episode, just don't read the reviews for it. They're pretty easy to spot (most reviewers write which episode they're reviewing on the first line) so you can just skip over them.
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Post by David on Aug 3, 2012 21:38:54 GMT -6
Yeah, I didn't really mean the whole thing and you guys are right. Whatever. I just didn't know that Selina was gonna leave.
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Post by Jack Malone on Aug 3, 2012 22:07:36 GMT -6
In response to Brady's review of: 2.20 "Birth"I know you're insanely busy lately, so I'm incredibly grateful that you took the time to read and review, so thank you for that! Hahaha. That scene between Chloe and Oliver was basically a deleted scene from another episode that I reworked and used as a flashback to sort of show how distant they were, and how close they are now - this baby has literally brought them back to one another. I love how evil you are, ahaha. But yes, that would be a huge slap in the face for Chloe, to wake her up and she did really need that. The great thing about Chloe and Oliver as a couple is that, in this sort of environment, a lot of problems can come up, and with their roles as Watchtower and Green Arrow, that just adds a whole other bag of problems for them. But at their core, there is this huge amount of love there, and the baby reminded them of that as it is ultimately a product of their love (probably a bad thing to call a kid, huh? Good think I named them something else). Writing for Alfred is literally my favourite thing in the world. My hope is to eventually get him more involved in the series so that I can do some nice Alfred/Chloe scenes, because I think, if you broke down their beliefs and their characters, all of that, they're pretty similar. But yes, this episode had - I think two - scenes with Alfred and Selina which were so fun to do. I liked writing the part where Alfred earns sexy points with Selina for sharing info on his history in the war. To ease you pain: Selina will always be a part of the show. Hell, I'm convinced she'll be in every season. But THIS season was really about building her character up, showing two sides of the coin, and really solidifying her as Selina and as Catwoman. To do that, I needed her to be a regular character. Her storyline is more contained next season, which I'm really excited about. But I really do plan on having her, if not Catwoman, pop up from time to time. XD Hahaha. And nice callback ("Vendetta"). But I swear, I don't mean to get rid of all your favourites! I'll bring in new people. It'll be good... it'll... -cries- I completely agree with you here. This was a huge part of why it took so long to get this episode out. My first draft was more tightly bound on the individual characters in the lockdown. For example, it was very "Flashback" heavy, as we got to see Bruce flash back to Lucius Fox getting shot, and killed right in front of him, and Vicki even flashed back to show us more of what happened when Chloe sort of said "hey, I can't focus on you. I have to save these people." The second draft had no flashbacks, and I just got the story down, and then I tried to make many others blending, and eventually had THIS as the final product, which I thought was the best out of them all. But I did still find pacing issues, like you. I was banking more on the story pulling me through with this episode, so I'm sorry I didn't work more on that. My only problem with showing more of Chloe in this episode, going through labor, is that, it would have been a whole lot of screaming, and, I don't know. I sort of wanted to avoid cutting to Chloe just ROARING as she pushes a baby out of her. Hahaha. But I can definitely see the pacing problems with not including that. I'm so not gonna lie. The Joker is literally saying this to you, Brady (Mr.Helena's-Biggest-Fan-Ever). Hahaha. When he's like "if only it were that simple", its basically saying that he's not just gonna kill Helena at the snap of his fingers. She'll be safe... for a while. The Joker is a really twisted man, and I think, with his hunt extending to the heroes, Helena sort of has this second chance. She's more known as The Huntress, than "being part of a crime family", so she's bought herself time on that front. And The Joker has a bigger plan for the heroes than he did with the crime families - which we'll look at in the last two episodes. XD Then again, a main character does die in "Escape", so... :/ (I'm a monster) Nek minnit, Toyman is dead. Hahaha. But no, thank you. That really does mean a lot because I don't spend as much time in the heads of the villains as I do with Chloe, and Oliver, and Helena, and all these regular characters, so sometimes I feel off my game with writing The Joker, and Harley, and Toyman. So thank you! Hahaha. To be honest, going into this season I was like... its definitely going to be a boy. But then, well I have some stuff planned and decided against it. But "Purpose" really drove it home, I think/hope. Because if she had left this life behind, she'd have her happily ever after - albeit, not with Oliver, but she'd have this son, she'd be content and out of danger. And so, the realisation that she had a girl really solidifies the fact that her "set out" future (that we saw in the Smallville finale) has pretty much been ripped from existence. I was going to have a flashback to a scene between Chloe and Chloe2.0(Anne) from "Purpose" in there after the "she" part, but was like... this episode is already long. Ahaha. Haha. I took one from Nolan's book in that one. He listed his clown minions with actual clown names, so I went on google and looked up some clown names to find some good ones. Its just so annoying to write "MINION #4" or "CLOWN #5" you know? Plus I read somewhere that people haaaate reading that too, so I'm like: what the hell! But thank you! Ahaha. And yes, I wanted Vicki, primarily, to kick some ass here. I had a blast writing her fight with Harley, and then Dinah steps in and... ugh. I sound like a tool, but I just love writing these characters too damn much. But yeah, that whole scene where Bruce and Dinah work together to fight these clown goons was one of my favourites. I'm so sorry for these long ass responses, haha. In a universe where men can fly, and woman can erupt a supersonic blast from their vocal chords... I kid. I know what you mean. I think, if it was anyone other than Zsasz - who is a pretty scrawny, creepy guy - Chloe would have succumb to her attacker. I did throw in a few week moments, but I really wanted to show that, whatever pain Chloe was in here, the cries of her baby, and this new life that is solely dependent on her, is really fueling her with the strength to keep going. I may not have put that across as much, but if I had a defense, that's what I would say. On the concept of motherhood, I wanted it to seem like she just gained this new found strength and ability to fight back because of having this baby. But I did try to counter that "realism" by giving her a few weaker-than-usual moments. I see exactly what you're saying though. Selina has an extremely rough two episodes left for her. For these last two episodes, I wanted to really touch upon the whole "nine lives" element. You know, for someone who doesn't fear death, lets introduce something that is going to make her fight to stay alive. What are the consequences of dying and coming back? What effect does that have on a person? So that's where the show is heading for her character in these last two episodes. The pregnancy falls into that. I was just talking about golf claps yesterday at school. They make me crack up, hahaha. Anyway, thanks! I really wanted to have this moment in here, and sort of have Chloe crumble underneath her own morals and beliefs, and struggle with that. What's fun is now, while Chloe and Oliver are briefly together together in a happily ever after kind of way (because The Joker is locked away), they're both emotionally distancing each other because Chloe is keeping the fact that she has a man's blood on her hands from him, and Oliver is keeping the fact that he could have total amnesia any minute of the day, and lose everything. I'm excited about exploring that, and look at how they'll deal with this alone, and eventually together. But, in terms of Chloe, she's heading in a very dark direction by the end of the season. XD Aaaaah! I'm beyond happy right now - THANK YOU! Yeah, I definitely did notice the pacing issues, and was just kind of hoping the story itself and where it went would be enough to, not disguise that, but you know, like you said, make up for it. I could dance right now - and I don't even know how to dance, but I could do it. Thank you!! XD
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Post by Jack Malone on Aug 3, 2012 22:20:40 GMT -6
Yeah, I didn't really mean the whole thing and you guys are right. Whatever. I just didn't know that Selina was gonna leave. I'm probably the worst with spoiler tags. But yeah, nothing really gets updated in the discussion thread unless its a review, really. I mainly post everything in the spoiler&spec thread because I'm a spoiler junkie. But yeah, a lot of stuff gets carried over, so just be aware of that. |
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Post by David on Aug 4, 2012 1:51:34 GMT -6
Aah, good old golf claps. In fifth grade my teacher hated when we clapped regularly so we would golf clap. When we were about to clap he'd be like "Alright, guys, let's golf clap it up."
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Post by David on Aug 4, 2012 1:51:59 GMT -6
Yeah, I didn't really mean the whole thing and you guys are right. Whatever. I just didn't know that Selina was gonna leave. I'm probably the worst with spoiler tags. But yeah, nothing really gets updated in the discussion thread unless its a review, really. I mainly post everything in the spoiler&spec thread because I'm a spoiler junkie. But yeah, a lot of stuff gets carried over, so just be aware of that. How do you do spoiler tags? |
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 4, 2012 2:32:26 GMT -6
2.20 "Birth" Review Alright Jack Malone....it's time for a Karl Hurd review . This episode kept me on the edge of my seat....considering you had me waiting literally a month to read this.hahaha. Anywho....all the action and drama in this episode really made it for me. My all time favorite scenes would have to be Toyman and Ollie's talk about what exactly is going on with Oliver. And the second would have to be Vicki being a bamf. Those parts stood out the most. More scenes stood out but that will be discussed in the character reviews . I seriously can't wait what to see what is in store for the next episode. Now onto the characters: Chloe Sullivan: I have to say that her giving birth was something I was expecting as a full episode thing....but whatever I'm glad it didn't last that long. One thing I liked about Chloe is that she killed a man. Something Chloe has only done ONCE before in her life. So I can't wait to see how that plays out later on in the series. Another thing that stood about her in this episode was we never ending desire to protect her child. Which I felt was what any mother would do. Her flashback with Oliver was a good wake up call though. I honestly want to see how far she is willing to go to protect her newborn now. She sort of reminds me of Gwen from torchwood. Basically Gwen literally betrayed her friends to protect her family and her daughter and I would love to see that side of Chloe. I also liked that you literally have Chloe lay out her failures and finally deciding this was one thig that she is willing not to screw up. Bruce Wayne: His scenes with Vicki and Dinah made me happy on the inside. I loved how he basically lauded it out to Vicki that he was still important to the team no matter what she thought. Another thing I liked is how he pretty much showed his bad-ass side without the batman gear . Can't wait to see more of that. Dinah Lance: My favorite superhero . Aside from Chloe. It was finally good to see her again after the shit that happened to her two episodes ago. Her scenes with the home team and Bruce and Vicki basically showed that she is still as badass as she was before her accident. I honestly want to see the adverse effects that her experience with the joker caused. Another thing that I want to see with Dinah is her to finally be reunited with her mom. I at least want that happy ending for her. Perry White: HOLY SHIT. Jack Malone....tell me why I saw this coming. You are like the Joss Whedon of the "Watchtower/Trinity Verse". I honestly wanted to start crying when I read his scenes. I can't wait to see how the others deal with this and to see how he takes this. I also liked that you did that to him instead of someone else. Poor Perry has been through so much  . his storyline into next season is the one I will be looking at closely Vicki Vale: In a way this episode was about her "Birth" into someone who can/will be able to take care of herself. I loved her fight scenes with Harley was amazing. I was also happy with how she got reassured that she is just as important. Her storyline is another one that I am super interested in going into next season. I pretty much feel like Vicki and Chloe are similar. The reason I say that is because of the fact that in the earlier seasons of smallville Chloe always needed someone to save her. And then in season 6 onwards she started taking care of herself and showing how she can handle things on her own. So I'm ready for Vicki to start kicking more ass. Guido: He got on my nerves again.....that is all Toyman: My god. He has been a delight. He really stepped up on the whole being a massive threat. I'm surprised that you let him be this ruthless. His story with Oliver was pretty sad and I can't believe he was this devious. I can't wait to see how it all plays out in the finale . Moira Sullivan: Her scenes in this episode were fantastic. I honestly thought she was gunna be like Guido and irritate me. But she didn't. I also loved how she was the one to take out The Joker. It was also cool how we got to see her ability again. Joker and Harley: These two pretty much are Bamfs period. I honestly felt bad about the Jokers past. And I liked how certain points in his convo with Helena triggered the flashbacks. That pretty much made it for me. And of course we got the basis of what his plans are: steal the database and kidnap Chloes kid. Can't wait to see how that plays out. And in a way the title "Birth" applies to the Joker aswell. We kind of sort of saw his "Birth" into te deranged person he is today. And how he will e a massive threat to the heroes Tess: miss her  Helena: It was great seeing her with the Joker. That made the episode as well. I felt bad that she almost died. I can honestly say if she dies I'm coming after you Jack Malone. And you are probably getting tired of this....but the title "Birth" relates to her aswell. The way it relates from my POV is that it's sort of a somewhat rebirth into her portrayal of Huntress later on down the line. And the fact that you showed her vulnerabilities this entire season and her non-success (I hope there is a better word) at having a normal life was pretty amazing. Can't wait to see whats in store for her next season Oliver Queen: When you first announced that Ollie wasn't going to be in season three....I kind of called that. I wasn't 100% but you announcing it solidified my theory. The fact that you are giving him a total wipeout of his memories is a fantastic swan song for Ollie. It really brought me to tears when Tess alluded to it. And then when Toyman confirmed it. I felt that it was a sad way to see him go....but also a good way aswell. His scenes made me have to stop and slowly get back to reading again. Throughout the episode after the giant reveal you could see that the memory loss was affecting him considering he couldn't even take Toyman down in that fight. I think the title "Birth" relates to Ollie aswell. Its his somewhat "rebirth" into a different character that we will see later on down the road. When I started thinking about Ollie and how he will forget that he has a little girl was pretty fantastic and I felt shocked and a little perturbed at the same time. Bravo Jack . I can't wait to see how the new Ollie will be. Selina Kyle: Her scene with Alfred were fantastic. I agree with you and Brady that she should have a scene like every episode she is in with Alfred. I also loved her little reveal about her eggo. That i didn't see coming.haha. So bravo for keeping me shocked. I literally yelled outloud when I read that. Another thing I enjoyed was that she was pissed off about Bruce visiting Vicki. That reminded me so much of how she dislikes Vicki and any other woman in Bruces life. I honestly want to see a cat fight between Vicki and Selina. I also love her scenes with Holly. . I also want to see how she handles being a mother aswell. So this is my massive review that I said I would do for you. You pretty much answered all my questions on MSN. So need to put them on here.haha. So hopefully you enjoy this . And be prepared for my other reviews. All in All this gets a 10/10. Can't wait to read "Escape" (picture Dory from finding nemo saying this word).  |
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Post by Jack Malone on Aug 4, 2012 4:39:49 GMT -6
In response to Karl's review: 2.20 "Birth"
First off, its been soooo long since I've read one of your insanely awesome reviews, so I'm over the moon ecstatic that I get the chance to do that again. I know you're been busy too, and have started to separate yourself from the world wide web a bit of late, so I'm glad you're back to review this episode, and possible more! I'm really happy!
Yeah, I'm sorry that it took so long. The next two episodes will suffer a long wait too, because school just does not want to give me a breather. Anyway, back onto "Birth." Writing the Toyman/Oliver confrontation was a lot of fun because Toyman was always a character that I enjoyed on Smallville, and bringing him back - due to his huge connection to Oliver's past - just felt right. So I'm really glad that you like his surfacing too, because he was a joy to write for in these three episodes. As for Vicki, we haven't even touched on her transformation yet, so I'm excited to see what you think of her in the longrun when we see more of her development from "Damsel in distress" to "Bad ass mother f*cker".
To be honest, when I originally put this episode in the season run, and even went as far as to call it "Birth", I thought in my head that it would focus a lot on that actual process of child birth, and seeing Chloe go through that. But, when it came to writing the episode, I felt like cutting back and forth to a woman screaming in child birth, in the middle of a lockdown (an event that is much more fun and interesting to watch/read play out) - well, I didn't think it'd work as well. Like Brady said, the lack of focus on this aspect did mess with the pacing a little bit, but I think, in terms of character development, the episode was more focused on the birth of Chloe as a mother, rather than the birth of her child.
The lengths Chloe will go to in order to protect her daughter is definitely something that is explored, and you'll get to see a little more of her edgier and darker side, especially when its her child who is threatened, Oliver, or her family as a whole. We've seen her try to protect her friends, and the city, and now we get to see a woman who would do anything to protect her family. And I'm really excited to write that! XD
I'm really pleased that you enjoyed him showing off his "badass" side, despite not being in the Batman armor, and I hope that while there hasn't been as much Batman this season (as promised in the beginning of the season), there will be a lot of payoff at the end of this season, and especially going into next (which will feature a lot more). With Bruce, this season is very much just his first steps - he is referred to as "The Dark Knight" at the moment, he hasn't fully integrated himself into the city, and we'll get to see him solidify this role and position in Gotham in these last two episodes. As for the scene with him and Vicki, I thought of a great scene between Chloe and Vicki that would address that whole situation that played out, but I could never get these two characters together for an intimate moment like that, so to have Bruce sort of pop in to say hello at the hospital was nice enough to touch on those issues Vicki felt. Along with Chloe trusting Vicki to protect the team against the Joker, by throwing her that gun. (I do plan on using this Chloe/Vicki scene before the end of the season though. It explains quite a bit from the decisions made in "Hunt" by Chloe in regards to Vicki).
Whenever someone gives Dinah praise, I seriously like melt. Ahahaha. I was so worried about introducing her into this show, and I think it was MJ's review of "Prey" that convinced me to go for it, and bring her on board for S2. You will definitely get to see the effects of the Joker's attack on Dinah in these last two episodes. There is definitely side effects from what he did to her, and while I wanted to show that in this episode, I didn't have the proper time left to do it. But it will happen, I promise. It has taken its toll on her body, and her powers.
Perry is one of those characters that just lurks in the background, that when something major happens to him, its all the more surprising. That said, I have something huge planned for him in this last run that I'm really excited about. But like I can't shut up about all season, everyone does end in a really tragic place, and I think this is the only episode out of the final three that really ended on a not-so-tragic note. I really hope when the time comes to write the finale I'll be able to hit the right emotional beats, and not crash and burn with it.
I love how you're making all these connections with the title of the episode. In terms of Vicki, I wouldn't jump that far with her just yet. This episode, she definitely got some confidence back in her that was really tarnished in "Hunt." It was nice to write her kicking some ass and especially throw down with Harley. But she still needed Dinah to step in and save her. What's fun with Vicki is she's not a professional kick boxer, or a gadget gal, or has superpowers that can save her week-to-week. She's a damn good reporter, and for so long, that's all she needed. But now, the environment she's a part of is asking her to up her game, and she's struggling to do that. And that will continue into the finale. But ugh, I'm so glad you don't hate her! Hahahaha.
Naww. I wanna know why!? Hahaha. I love Guido. This episode, for him, was to mirror that parenting role. Like he said, he would do anything to protect his daughter, even give up the identities of all the heroes of the world if it meant saving Helena's life. And I thought it was nice to have someone who is willing to admit that. He's not trying to be a hero, he's just trying to be a father. Hopefully he won't get on your nerves in these last two episodes...
So, so, so glad you like Toyman! I never was on the boards or anything when the character was on Smallville, so I didn't really know if he was a favourite villain or anything. But I think, considering his history with Oliver it would be a good idea to bring him on board. Even though he was a three-episode-guest-spot, I felt like he needed closure. He needed to best Oliver, and he needed to know that he could get vengeance for what Oliver did to him. That had fueled him for so long, so it felt kind of right to end his journey with one-upping the man responsible for all his pain, and then go out with a bang - literally. But yeah, I'm really glad you've liked him. The villains list was really piling up, but now Zsasz and Toyman are out of the game.
Moira just had to be in this episode, on that whole concept of 'parents' and 'motherhood', and all of that. She, like Guido, wasn't there much for their child, and are trying to make up for it now. Hell, if she wasn't back with Gabe - someone who I need to bring back in the picture soon - I would totally ship Guido/Moira. Hahaha. I'm kidding. Slightly. Not really. But yeah, in one of the first drafts, this Sophie/Moira thing played out more, but it was scrapped in the final draft. It turned more into Sophie's story than Moira's, and I needed it to focus on her solely. And having her own the Joker was so worth putting in there. Seriously, that whole scene (which was about 5 pages long before I cut it up to blend with other scenes) has got to be my favourite scene I've ever written. And I swear, the Watchtower window has been destroyed in like every episode. Its just so awesome when it shatters - its like a running gag, similar to the Clock in the Halliwell Manor on Charmed, hahaha.
Like I said to Brady, it means so much to get praise on these two because I'm not as locked into their mindsets as I am with the others, so there are times where I'm not as confident in their dialogue, or gestures, and things like that. So I spend a lot of time focusing on their scenes and editing them to make sure they're not off. It really means a lot that you guys are liking them. The Joker's plans to install Anarchy into the whole city definitely involves breaking down the heroes willing to stand up for it. Chloe seems to be at the core of that, with Watchtower, so breaking her down would be like creating a domino effect on the others. And sadly, Chloe's daughter plays into that. Also, the flashbacks show that The Joker had a wife once, and an unborn baby, so there's that question of: "Does he want the child for himself?" "Is his humanity seeping through the cracks?" All of that. And I was excited to dig into his past to show that "Jack" and "The Joker" are completely different people, almost like they're from different worlds. And so that was fun. You're completely right on the "Birth" reference here, ahaha. XD
I wanted to do soooooo much more with her. But she had a big-enough role, and I loved writing her for that brief amount of time. I'm just glad you guys went with it, even though she's one of the most awesome characters on Smallville, and I only included her as a figment of Oliver's imagination. I know, I'm such a prick. -cries-
Helena isn't really in the mindset yet to take on The Huntress. She's very much free of that right now. She and Guido are looking to move on, and put Gotham in their past, much like Chloe and Oliver, and we'll get to see them approach that in "Escape". Anyway, thank you! Ugh. I've missed hearing from you so much. Yeah, Helena really felt like there was no way out here - she was in a room with the world's biggest psycho, who has a bounty over her head, and she really did feel like it was over. She's been a highlight to write for this season, especially when, in the first two episodes, I was really trying to figure out how she would work into the show when she was so secluded from everyone else.
Aww, thanks. I have a few surprises up my sleeve with this storyline for Oliver, and I'm really looking forward to writing the finale, if only to really put a bow on this arc for him, and write this scene I've had in my head for months. Its gotten to the last two episodes, and I'm like "there's only two episodes with Oliver left. What am I doing?!" Hahaha. But, I am excited about this story, so hopefully I won't get too upset come Season Three! Oliver is definitely losing huge chunks of his life, and recently, lost all that time spent training himself on the island. So he's completely defenseless right now, and how he tries to stop this amnesia process is going to be looked at in the next episode.
Ugh. I love Selina Kyle. I love writing her so. damn. much. As well as Alfred, of course. A huge highlight of this season for me has been bringing Selina into the persona of Catwoman, and not just that, but her relationship with Holly. I will permanently have that scene glued in my mind that was set to the song "Plans" in one of the earlier episodes, where they're basically saying goodbye to one another, and yeah. Crack!Ship. Jk. But seriously, I've had a blast, and you really encouraged me to include Holly more into the show. Originally, I hadn't even planned to have the character in the series until it came to writing 2.08 "Catwoman". Now, I just jump at the chance to write her, and her scenes with Selina. In fact, I'm pretty certain that Holly will be in the last two episodes (as well as Season Three). *toyota jump*
And omg. You and your catfights! Hahaha. I swear, all your reviews requested a catfight between two chicks on the show. Love it. Hahaha. Who knows? Maybe next season. XD
Anyway, thank you so much for the review. And I deeply, deeply apologise for my constant ranting and inability to shut up. Haha. I get carried away, and I always jump at the chance to respond to these reviews because I love writing Watchtower, and I love hearing people's thoughts, and finding ways to bring the "behind the scene" stuff into it. So yeah, I ramble! But thank you! I'm so glad that you reviewed this one! XD
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 4, 2012 12:58:43 GMT -6
And now that youre done reviewing.....GET TO WORK ON THE FINAL TWO EPISODES |
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Post by David on Aug 4, 2012 15:08:16 GMT -6
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ YEAH!!!!!!!
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Post by Brady Brown on Aug 7, 2012 8:57:49 GMT -6
I would just like to add my reaction to finding out Selina's secret and the Chloe's baby's gender and name: |
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Post by Jack Malone on Aug 8, 2012 21:35:33 GMT -6
^Hahaha. A lot of the scenes in "Birth" were my favourite to write for the season, and that reveal of the baby's name was definitely one of them. I just loved doing the montage of the characters with Gordon's speech carrying through to each scene, leading up to Chloe saying the name. I'm just glad it hasn't received a "that's so cheesy" label yet. Hahahaha. XD
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Post by eagle219406 on Aug 22, 2012 16:37:54 GMT -6
I don't know if this is the place to ask this, but I'll ask this anyway. When I watched the Opening Credits for the second season, there was a message below that a second version would be made for the second half of the season that would add Alaina and Julian to it. I have never seen that one made. Is it still planned?
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. his storyline into next season is the one I will be looking at closely 
